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0 pointstgma6mo ago0 comments

> If that would be true, they would be a democracy.

I am positing perhaps they are a democracy. Many of the "educated people" in question that the GP suggests "hate" the government, may say so but their actions nevertheless are directly and indirectly benefiting the Mullahs. Democracy does not mean good, or effective, or not evil. It might be a collective compromise towards mediocrity and stagnation.

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lukan6mo ago

"I am positing perhaps they are a democracy."

Then maybe take a closer look into how their system works.

Every candidate has to be approved by the Mullah's. So the Mullah's are effectivly in control. Still, there are differences with the candidates. Would I vote under such conditions? No idea, I am struggle to find a party representing my views and I am in a western democracy.

tgmaOP6mo ago

The Democrats in the US have Superdelegates effectively vetoing candidates. So is the media and funding apparatus and the deep state by holding potential blackmail material.

To be clear, I am not defending their system. I am suggesting democracy is not a panacea that automatically guarantees prosperity. Far from it.

amirmi786mo ago

You're muddling the line between democracy and dictatorship.

In a democracy if you control all the votes of people you should be able to make changes in the government that the incumbent may not want. You can't do this in Iran.

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lukan6mo ago

"I am suggesting democracy is not a panacea that automatically guarantees prosperity. Far from it."

No, but I would say it is a precondition for broad prosperity. When the wealth and power lies concentrated with small minority, they tend to use their power to keep it that way. If power is distributed, so will be the wealth usually. And yes, I do see some problems with western democracies as well.

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0 pointstgma6mo ago0 comments

> If that would be true, they would be a democracy.

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lukan6mo ago

"I am positing perhaps they are a democracy."

Then maybe take a closer look into how their system works.

tgmaOP6mo ago

The Democrats in the US have Superdelegates effectively vetoing candidates. So is the media and funding apparatus and the deep state by holding potential blackmail material.

To be clear, I am not defending their system. I am suggesting democracy is not a panacea that automatically guarantees prosperity. Far from it.

amirmi786mo ago

You're muddling the line between democracy and dictatorship.

In a democracy if you control all the votes of people you should be able to make changes in the government that the incumbent may not want. You can't do this in Iran.

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lukan6mo ago

"I am suggesting democracy is not a panacea that automatically guarantees prosperity. Far from it."

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