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0 pointsXelbair6mo ago0 comments

>Representative democracy doesn't mean that every possible policy could be enacted by some realistic configuration of elected representatives, even if any particular policy is supported by a majority of the electorate.

that is only true if you flatten your system to two parties.

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umanwizard6mo ago

> that is only true if you flatten your system to two parties.

Again with the "you". "We" did not flatten anything into anything; we were born into an unfair and broken system that we have no power to change.

Peritract6mo ago

This is also true of Iranians.

People are pointing out the hypocrisy of demonising Iranians for the actions of their government while insisting that Americans are unwilling victims of theirs.

bigstrat20036mo ago

I'm not demonizing Iranians. I have no beef with them whatsoever.

MarceColl6mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

umanwizard6mo ago

Huh? This is a completely different thing.

XelbairOP6mo ago

blame English language on lack of distinction between plural(referring to 'your society' in this case) and singular you. I don't think that's a hard concept to grasp.

umanwizard6mo ago

No, this has nothing to do with English grammar. I understand that you are using "you" in the plural, here. What I reject is the premise that "Americans" is an identifiable group that is collectively responsible for any particular thing, extending to people who never supported or voted for that thing.

This is a philosophical disagreement, not an issue of language.

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pirates6mo ago

But you know that in this case it’s true since the discussion is about the US in particular. So this “enlightened” take is really just snide time wasting.

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umanwizard6mo ago

> that is only true if you flatten your system to two parties.

Again with the "you". "We" did not flatten anything into anything; we were born into an unfair and broken system that we have no power to change.

Peritract6mo ago

This is also true of Iranians.

People are pointing out the hypocrisy of demonising Iranians for the actions of their government while insisting that Americans are unwilling victims of theirs.

bigstrat20036mo ago

I'm not demonizing Iranians. I have no beef with them whatsoever.

MarceColl6mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

umanwizard6mo ago

Huh? This is a completely different thing.

XelbairOP6mo ago

blame English language on lack of distinction between plural(referring to 'your society' in this case) and singular you. I don't think that's a hard concept to grasp.

umanwizard6mo ago

This is a philosophical disagreement, not an issue of language.

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pirates6mo ago

But you know that in this case it’s true since the discussion is about the US in particular. So this “enlightened” take is really just snide time wasting.

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