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0 pointsthefz6mo ago0 comments

> I think that folks overseas aren't as capable of communicating with Americans as other Americans are

I speak Italian, English and French. I speak English to you because it's the only language you know. We are not the same.

> I think that American tech companies would prefer a motivated at-will employee at 3x the cost of an unfirable European with a statutory month off every year.

We work to live, not the opposite. Again, we are not the same.

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AnimalMuppet6mo ago

Fair enough, on both points. And yet, a tech company in the US may prefer someone who is US-style rather than Europe-style on the second point.

SR2Z6mo ago

> I speak Italian, English and French. I speak English to you because it's the only language you know. We are not the same.

I have worked with overseas coworkers who spoke English. You're right, it's not always the same as having native fluency.

> We work to live, not the opposite. Again, we are not the same.

You're making my point for me - offshoring work fails for cultural reasons, not because overseas workers are dumb. Making work remote is not gonna change the cultural factors.

Also a very funny take because if you have ever visited the Bay Area, you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who struck it rich and retired at 30.

thefzOP6mo ago

> Also a very funny take because if you have ever visited the Bay Area, you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who struck it rich and retired at 30.

What does it have to do with companies looking for "motivated" americans? Also

> if you have ever visited the Bay Area

Nah, thanks.

SR2Z6mo ago

Congrats! You like where you live.

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0 pointsthefz6mo ago0 comments

> I think that folks overseas aren't as capable of communicating with Americans as other Americans are

I speak Italian, English and French. I speak English to you because it's the only language you know. We are not the same.

> I think that American tech companies would prefer a motivated at-will employee at 3x the cost of an unfirable European with a statutory month off every year.

We work to live, not the opposite. Again, we are not the same.

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AnimalMuppet6mo ago

Fair enough, on both points. And yet, a tech company in the US may prefer someone who is US-style rather than Europe-style on the second point.

SR2Z6mo ago

> I speak Italian, English and French. I speak English to you because it's the only language you know. We are not the same.

I have worked with overseas coworkers who spoke English. You're right, it's not always the same as having native fluency.

> We work to live, not the opposite. Again, we are not the same.

You're making my point for me - offshoring work fails for cultural reasons, not because overseas workers are dumb. Making work remote is not gonna change the cultural factors.

Also a very funny take because if you have ever visited the Bay Area, you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who struck it rich and retired at 30.

thefzOP6mo ago

> Also a very funny take because if you have ever visited the Bay Area, you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who struck it rich and retired at 30.

What does it have to do with companies looking for "motivated" americans? Also

> if you have ever visited the Bay Area

Nah, thanks.

SR2Z6mo ago

Congrats! You like where you live.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse