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>I do think it’s courteous for people to make an effort to integrate. But it should also be their decision, not ours.

If I choose not to integrate, and to instead practice particularly illiberal approaches to women, for example, is that still my decision? If my culture uses rape and acid to control women, may I continue?

I'm picking on a particularly onerous difference between Western and MENA peoples that's been a flashpoint in the UK, from what I can see.

If immigration was purely unfounded scapegoating, and we all could simply talk about our heritage and share new foods in these borderless economic zones that used to be countries, why would there be articles like these popping up:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/05/disputed-or-...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvnnj301l3o

Another debate probably reduced to a single bit of information between participants. Class based analyses on immigration are probably more telling, but there doesn't seem to be much available.

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hnlmorg6mo ago

> If I choose not to integrate, and to instead practice particularly illiberal approaches to women, for example, is that still my decision? If my culture uses rape and acid to control women, may I continue?

You’re now conflating culture with crime.

And are you honestly suggesting that other cultures have literally nothing to offer asides violent sexual offences?!

Ridiculous.

> If immigration was purely unfounded scapegoating, and we all could simply talk about our heritage and share new foods in these borderless economic zones that used to be countries, why would there be articles like these popping up

The first article is debunking headline claims about immigration. Ostensibly supporting my claims.

The second article is just a commentary of the government’s plans to deport.

Neither of them defend your position.

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