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0 pointsbobxmax6mo ago0 comments

> having an ai steal a melody and add it

The fact people still think this is how these models work is astonishing

Even if that were true, sampling is an artform and is behind one of the most popular and succesful genres today (hip hop). So is DJ'ing or is that also not a skill?

The same puritanism that claimed jazz wasn't music, then rap wasn't music, then EDM wasn't music, blah blah

Gatekeepers of what is and isn't art always end up wrong and crotchety on the other side. It's lame and played out.

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schwartzworld6mo ago

I actually make a lot of sample based music, and it’s as much an art as you make it. Downloading a couple of loops from splice and layering them is lame, actually chopping and repurposing samples is not.

I never said Suno wasn’t “art”. The opposite is true. If you want to put your name on something that took no effort or skill and call it art, more power to you. You could do the same in other areas, and lame, low effort “art” proceeds AI by millennia. You are as welcome as anybody to call yourself a creator, however lame that effort may be.

But man the chutzpah of comparing that low effort drivel with people pushing genre boundaries.

Aldipower6mo ago

If you sample you have to credit the creator of the original samples properly. It is astonishing that you do not know that.

bobxmaxOP6mo ago

What the hell does that have to do with the supposed artistry of it?

Sure, make the models credit the original artists, who cares. That doesn't change if it's an art that should be respected or not.

Aldipower6mo ago

If you do not credit right it is steeling not art. Suno does not credit right.

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0 pointsbobxmax6mo ago0 comments

> having an ai steal a melody and add it

The fact people still think this is how these models work is astonishing

Even if that were true, sampling is an artform and is behind one of the most popular and succesful genres today (hip hop). So is DJ'ing or is that also not a skill?

The same puritanism that claimed jazz wasn't music, then rap wasn't music, then EDM wasn't music, blah blah

Gatekeepers of what is and isn't art always end up wrong and crotchety on the other side. It's lame and played out.

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schwartzworld6mo ago

But man the chutzpah of comparing that low effort drivel with people pushing genre boundaries.

Aldipower6mo ago

If you sample you have to credit the creator of the original samples properly. It is astonishing that you do not know that.

bobxmaxOP6mo ago

What the hell does that have to do with the supposed artistry of it?

Sure, make the models credit the original artists, who cares. That doesn't change if it's an art that should be respected or not.

Aldipower6mo ago

If you do not credit right it is steeling not art. Suno does not credit right.

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