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0 pointstsukikage5mo ago0 comments

> You can usually switch host

...it took OP 8 months of "rolling the gacha" and waiting to get a clean IP; no mention of costs. Not really a solution in my book. If you're willing to wait 8 months for working email, I put it to you you're actually using some other provider for your life and the thing you are playing with is a toy.

I've been self-hosting my email for a pretty long time. I first started down the reputation rabbit hole when a provider decided to shut up shop after a decade of operation, causing me to lose my lovely fixed IP block with its decade-old clean rep. Waiting/playing around isn't really an option when your email is broken and you need it working /today/ because it's not a throwaway toy - your digital life is tied to it.

Still, as I said at the start, if you get lucky, awesome for you.

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Bender5mo ago

If cost is not an issue one can run standby servers in multiple locations and have backups to all of them. Just as MX records allow for multiple inbound servers one can have multiple outbound servers as well. Park a few unused or vanity domains on them and have cronjobs send automated emails to yourself. I reply to those emails so the likes of Gmail see interaction between them. With time all IP addresses get good reputation.

tsukikageOP5mo ago

An IP laundering service certainly sounds like a potential startup opportunity. Certainly I'd have paid for a proven good IP in the past before I developed my current solution.

devsda5mo ago

You mean reputation laundering ?

Email marketing services provide a similar feature called IP warm-up which does the same thing but over a shorter timeline.

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jauntywundrkind5mo ago

> ..it took OP 8 months of "rolling the gacha" and waiting to get a clean IP; no mention of costs.

I dont see anything about it taking the OP 8 months to get a clean IP? They were on Hetzner, and can presumably keep making new VM's for a while until they get a clean one. Hetzner bills based on hours used, so I imagine that total cost would be quite low.

tsukikageOP5mo ago

> I dont see anything about it taking the OP 8 months to get a clean IP?

Here you go: https://mastodon.social/@whitequark/115298148901108415

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0 pointstsukikage5mo ago0 comments

> You can usually switch host

Still, as I said at the start, if you get lucky, awesome for you.

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Bender5mo ago

tsukikageOP5mo ago

An IP laundering service certainly sounds like a potential startup opportunity. Certainly I'd have paid for a proven good IP in the past before I developed my current solution.

devsda5mo ago

You mean reputation laundering ?

Email marketing services provide a similar feature called IP warm-up which does the same thing but over a shorter timeline.

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jauntywundrkind5mo ago

> ..it took OP 8 months of "rolling the gacha" and waiting to get a clean IP; no mention of costs.

tsukikageOP5mo ago

> I dont see anything about it taking the OP 8 months to get a clean IP?

Here you go: https://mastodon.social/@whitequark/115298148901108415

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