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0 pointsdrnick15mo ago0 comments

Aren't Graphene and Lineage exactly that?

I have been running Graphene on a Pixel for a while now and I don't think Linux phones are a viable alternative. The vast majority of Android apps just work on Graphene, and there are millions of them. The UI experience is polished, everything just works with the exception of apps that require Google Play Integrity. And of course these projects aren't affected by Google's restrictions on sideloading.

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MrDresden5mo ago

Look I love that GrapheneOS exists, and I have used it in the past (as have I with Lineage).

But GrapheneOS lives by the mercy of Google. Pixel devices being reference devices makes it so that it's unlikely that Google will close them down completely.

However, as can be seen with this verification move, Google is willing to go very far to accomplish its aims. They already delayed delivery of Android 16 images, causing GrapheneOS some headaches.

Who is to say more isn't to come.

fluidcruft5mo ago

Google also announced that Pixel devices are no longer reference devices. The reference device is now some VM.

bitwize5mo ago

Waydroid exists and a mobile distro that provided Waydroid OOTB would be as usable as a full-on Android phone. You could even build it to remove the app verification stuff if that found its way into AOSP.

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