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0 pointsWorkaccount25mo ago0 comments

Vid.me was the salvation from YouTube, showing up around 2015 and actually pulling creators from YouTube. They gained traction and were well known, at one point even surpassing YouTube on /r/videos.

But they went bankrupt in 2017.

Why? Because people don't want to view ads and they don't want to pay a subscription. Vid.me was unable to monetize and collapsed.

Nebula is a more recent example. Creators falling over themselves to promote it, yet conversation rates are still <1%.

It's not anti-competitive practices killing these companies. It's childish entitled users who get offended when asked to compensate.

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jodrellblank5mo ago

I paid a subscription to Amazon Prime Video. Amazon Prime introduced adverts.

But I suppose expecting ad-free video streaming 'just because I paid for it' is also entitled and childish, because to people who use those things as putdowns, everything other people want, is. It's like "everything I don't like is woke" in that sense.

Workaccount2OP5mo ago

You pay for an ad-subsidized version of amazon prime video.

The ad-free version is available if you cover the cost of lost ad revenue.

Just because you pay doesn't mean there will be no ads. And just because there are ads doesn't mean there is an ad free service available.

This is how smart TVs can be bought for $300. It's a $600 TV but you pay for half of it in smart TV ads.

jodrellblank5mo ago

> "You pay for an ad-subsidized version of amazon prime video."

Apparently so. But that isn't what I signed up for. That isn't the product I started out paying for. And that isn't the product I agreed to switch to, except by some weasel words on their part.

Your original argument is that people don't pay for things because people are crybabies. My counter argument is that people do and did pay for things and companies abused that, and now people are "once bitten, twice shy" not "entitled". People paid for NetFlix and then when that became a success, content companies pulled their content and made their own streaming services. People paid for YouTube Premium to avoid ads and then YouTube showed 'sponsorships' which are ads in all but name.

https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/18ll7y6/i_have_you...

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0 pointsWorkaccount25mo ago0 comments

Vid.me was the salvation from YouTube, showing up around 2015 and actually pulling creators from YouTube. They gained traction and were well known, at one point even surpassing YouTube on /r/videos.

But they went bankrupt in 2017.

Why? Because people don't want to view ads and they don't want to pay a subscription. Vid.me was unable to monetize and collapsed.

Nebula is a more recent example. Creators falling over themselves to promote it, yet conversation rates are still <1%.

It's not anti-competitive practices killing these companies. It's childish entitled users who get offended when asked to compensate.

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jodrellblank5mo ago

I paid a subscription to Amazon Prime Video. Amazon Prime introduced adverts.

Workaccount2OP5mo ago

You pay for an ad-subsidized version of amazon prime video.

The ad-free version is available if you cover the cost of lost ad revenue.

Just because you pay doesn't mean there will be no ads. And just because there are ads doesn't mean there is an ad free service available.

This is how smart TVs can be bought for $300. It's a $600 TV but you pay for half of it in smart TV ads.

jodrellblank5mo ago

> "You pay for an ad-subsidized version of amazon prime video."

Apparently so. But that isn't what I signed up for. That isn't the product I started out paying for. And that isn't the product I agreed to switch to, except by some weasel words on their part.

https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/18ll7y6/i_have_you...

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