You can tell if a project is a toy or not based on the bill? How about actually looking at what they do?
https://digitalsociety.coop/It's literally a agency doing professional development for others, among other services. Clearly not "toys".
HN dismissals are going down in quality, at least they used to be well researched some years ago. Now people just spew out the first thing that comes up in their mind, and zero validation before hitting that "reply" button.