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0 pointskstrauser5mo ago0 comments

That's different in that it prosecutes citizens of those countries for things done outside their borders, not unrelated people doing things elsewhere.

America will prosecute Americans for doing certain things that are illegal inside America outside its borders. As another example, if you take a boat to international waters and kill someone on it, you're going to get arrested and prosecuted when you get home.

America will not arrest or prosecute someone from the UK visiting Thailand as a sex tourist.

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xp845mo ago

Ok, hypothetically though, and going back to the smoking in Paris law, if the UK banned smoking in Paris, and a French citizen proven to have smoked in Paris vacations in the UK, the only thing stopping the UK from prosecuting them is that it would be kinda "act-of-war-ish" to start imprisoning French citizens. Technically they could under their own law, they just wouldn't dare since they don't want to start a major diplomatic incident or war.

kstrauserOP5mo ago

Once you're in another country's jurisdiction, all bets are off. You're subject to those laws, unless there's a treaty or similar saying that you're not. In another post, I mentioned writing nasty blog posts about Kim Jong-un. If you do that, it's probably a very bad idea to visit North Korea.

In this case, the operator of 4Chan is free to blow off the UK's law. They may wish to account for that in future travel plans, though.

hunterpayne5mo ago

This is one of those technically true but defacto false things. Its legal under UK law, but if they want the variety of benefits they get from the US then it isn't. If the UK government starts arresting vacationing Americans for things that aren't a violation of US law, its all a matter of if the US governments wants to make an issue of it. Maybe you get lucky and nothing happens, or maybe you lose your military protection and 25% of your GDP. Plus your tourism businesses take a hit. You really want to take that risk?

But given the behavior of the UK government lately, doing something suicidally stupid seems on brand for them.

jay_kyburz5mo ago

This is why we are not travailing the US right now.

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msh5mo ago

The US have done this a lot, luring “hackers” and other criminals to the US and then arresting them.

kstrauserOP5mo ago

I declare categorically that UK law does not apply to me, here in California.

However, if I'm going to break one of their laws that they feel very strongly about, I'm probably not going to travel to the UK. That's just begging for something bad to happen. Why risk it?

So in this case, if you know the US is looking for you, why, oh why, would you travel to the US?

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vintermann5mo ago

There are a few cases of claiming universal jurisdiction criminalizing what citizens of other countries do even outside the country, but that's generally things like crimes against humanity.

umanwizard5mo ago

> America will not arrest or prosecute someone from the UK visiting Thailand as a sex tourist.

Sure it will. Citizenship is irrelevant. If you travel abroad to have sex with underage people and then come to the US, you can be prosecuted regardless of your nationality.

throwaway484765mo ago

Boats are considered the territory of the flag state.

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xp845mo ago

kstrauserOP5mo ago

In this case, the operator of 4Chan is free to blow off the UK's law. They may wish to account for that in future travel plans, though.

hunterpayne5mo ago

But given the behavior of the UK government lately, doing something suicidally stupid seems on brand for them.

jay_kyburz5mo ago

This is why we are not travailing the US right now.

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msh5mo ago

The US have done this a lot, luring “hackers” and other criminals to the US and then arresting them.

kstrauserOP5mo ago

I declare categorically that UK law does not apply to me, here in California.

However, if I'm going to break one of their laws that they feel very strongly about, I'm probably not going to travel to the UK. That's just begging for something bad to happen. Why risk it?

So in this case, if you know the US is looking for you, why, oh why, would you travel to the US?

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vintermann5mo ago

There are a few cases of claiming universal jurisdiction criminalizing what citizens of other countries do even outside the country, but that's generally things like crimes against humanity.

umanwizard5mo ago

> America will not arrest or prosecute someone from the UK visiting Thailand as a sex tourist.

Sure it will. Citizenship is irrelevant. If you travel abroad to have sex with underage people and then come to the US, you can be prosecuted regardless of your nationality.

throwaway484765mo ago

Boats are considered the territory of the flag state.

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