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0 pointsbrailsafe6mo ago0 comments

What does the purchase price have to do with it? Seems like it would entirely depend on circumstances and constraints, rather than cost, how long someone would run something

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asdff6mo ago

Tells me they are price insensitive and probably get a new computer every couple of years.

biinjo6mo ago

That reasoning does not make any sense. I spend $3-4k on a MBP and run it till it fall apart, usually 5-7 years later.

RossBencina6mo ago

I reckon it makes some sense for Apple users. You have to be willing (and financially able) to upgrade when Apple says. Apple forcefully obsoletes their products way too quickly to be a viable option if you care about longevity[0]. I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

[0] EDIT: for reference, my previous ThinkPad lasted me 14 years.

ryandrake6mo ago

Out of about a dozen Apple devices in our household, none of them can be updated to the latest operating system. It's a huge problem with the Apple ecosystem, I'd say one of the biggest problems. Their hardware vastly outlasts their software, comically so.

tuyiown6mo ago

14 years as your main driver ? Because that what we’re talking about.

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kcplate6mo ago

Describe “forcefully obsoletes”?

I ran a 2008 MBP until 2019. Then…gave it to my wife who used it until 2022. Finally retired it after the battery swelled. I suspect I could have replaced the battery and she could have got another couple of years out of it if I really needed.

Not once did that device ever feel obsolete.

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madeofpalk6mo ago

It makes sense for some people, and doesn't for others. Not particularly surprising or insightful.

brailsafeOP6mo ago

Meh, I've been a mac user for 15 years professionally, usually alongside some desktop pc for gaming, and I upgrade when I damn well please, which is typically when they have a notable leap in performance, my laptop gets stolen, or my needs change, which should hardly be surprising in terms of progression through a career.

Their recent hardware is proving much more capable as tools than the budget i5 I had before, so I upgraded. In terms of machinery expenses, it's more than I'd like to spend on RAM and ssd than I'd prefer (their pricing ladder is comical) but the product is amazing. I'm going to wait as long as possible before I upgrade to Tahoe though, seems almost DoA

457649866mo ago

>I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

If they're working perfectly, why does it matter if they have current operating support? It doesn't seem like you're dependent on Apple.

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asdff6mo ago

Tells me they are price insensitive and probably get a new computer every couple of years.

biinjo6mo ago

That reasoning does not make any sense. I spend $3-4k on a MBP and run it till it fall apart, usually 5-7 years later.

RossBencina6mo ago

[0] EDIT: for reference, my previous ThinkPad lasted me 14 years.

ryandrake6mo ago

tuyiown6mo ago

14 years as your main driver ? Because that what we’re talking about.

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kcplate6mo ago

Describe “forcefully obsoletes”?

Not once did that device ever feel obsolete.

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madeofpalk6mo ago

It makes sense for some people, and doesn't for others. Not particularly surprising or insightful.

brailsafeOP6mo ago

457649866mo ago

>I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple.

If they're working perfectly, why does it matter if they have current operating support? It doesn't seem like you're dependent on Apple.

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