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0 pointsexasperaited6mo ago0 comments

Jesus Christ. How can you be this ill-informed about an absolutely unprecedented buildup of violent, thuggish, masked immigration enforcement?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/15/trump-immigr...

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ice-agents-penske-rental...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/29/ice-detentio...

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/ice-makes-it-imp...

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-access-to-counsel-dep...

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigrants-in-detention-c...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/30/ice-hidden-d...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/06/09/steph...

https://www.propublica.org/article/ice-officer-shoves-woman-...

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/priv...

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/ice-nebraska-immigr...

Now google "Kavanaugh stop". There has already been a Supreme Court case where ICE was challenged over their use of simple ethnicity to scoop up possible immigrants. Kavanaugh says: that's OK.

And I am done. It's really not my fault if the news you are consuming is not covering what is happening.

When I say don't be an idiot, I mean it in the sense of a useful idiot. Don't be uninformed. Don't be foolish. Don't let them get you to ignore what is happening.

(Mods, I appreciate this breaks the "long list of links" rule, probably. But it is an answer to the question from a wide variety of media sources which have documented what amounts to a slow-motion atrocity)

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refurb6mo ago

Is there a specific link about Americans being detained for extended periods?

And please stop the name calling. Not only is it against HN rules, you’re better than that.

I clicked the first link and they were about Steven Miller? Then the second Propublica was about a lawyer having to drive far to see a client.

The first Probulica article has more details but the examples include US citizens fighting with ICE and being detained.

Do you have any data on US citizens detained beyond what the law allows (Propublica says up to 3 days is legal) without extenuating circumstances like aiding illegal immigration, assaulting law enforcement, etc?

exasperaitedOP6mo ago

The reason I linked to articles about Stephen Miller is a) because I mentioned him in this thread and how central he is to what is going on and b) because those articles explain what is going on and the baseless processes that have been put in place that see people snatched off the street on the basis of ethnicity alone and locked up in immigration centres far from their families and lawyers.

Now if you want to continue sea-lioning, pick someone else.

God help the USA if this eyes-closed standard of avoidance is commonplace.

refurb6mo ago

I have to admit that the name calling and harsh language doesn’t help in convincing me of your argument. If anything it makes me wonder why someone confident of their opinion got so upset at a few basic questions. If you’re not in the mood to debate that’s fine, don’t.

But regardless, the Supreme Court did not allow profiling based on ethnicity alone. “To be clear, apparently ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion” is the direct quote from the decision.

What the court did allow are things like ethnicity, type of employment, location to be factors. That was based on the fact that those factors are directly related to job the government is trying to accomplish.

If French Canadians working illegally at tech companies in Boston are not major issue then it makes sense not to stop people that fit those profiles.

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refurb6mo ago

Is there a specific link about Americans being detained for extended periods?

And please stop the name calling. Not only is it against HN rules, you’re better than that.

I clicked the first link and they were about Steven Miller? Then the second Propublica was about a lawyer having to drive far to see a client.

The first Probulica article has more details but the examples include US citizens fighting with ICE and being detained.

exasperaitedOP6mo ago

Now if you want to continue sea-lioning, pick someone else.

God help the USA if this eyes-closed standard of avoidance is commonplace.

refurb6mo ago

If French Canadians working illegally at tech companies in Boston are not major issue then it makes sense not to stop people that fit those profiles.

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