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0 pointsAurornis4mo ago0 comments

That’s a drive unit, which is more than the motor. Read the description:

> This kit includes the Tesla motor, inverter, gear box, power cables and drive shafts.

Drive shafts, gearbox, power cables, inverter. Also includes the mounts, which is likely not factored into the lab calculations for this marketing material.

You cannot drop 150lbs from the Model 3 motor because it doesn’t even weigh 150lbs.

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catapart4mo ago

You're missing the forest for the trees. Dropping 10 lbs per motor is HUGE. Dropping 30 is amazing. Whatever is dropped, it's significant. Pretend that it isn't all you want, but anyone doing production work knows how important this is.

I'm happy to compare apples to apples when we can do that, and if you want me to say I was wrong about the Tesla motor size I'm happy to say that I was just going by what was available on the internet and skipped the details. But I did so in service of a point which you still haven't actually engaged with beyond "Nu uh!".

AurornisOP4mo ago

> Dropping 10 lbs per motor is HUGE.

Auto makers could drop 10lbs, 100lbs or even more from every EV right now by choosing more expensive materials, more expensive manufacturing processes, or simply cutting back on amenities.

10lbs is not significant in the grand scheme of things. The real question is how much it costs, what are the tradeoffs, and how practical is it.

> But I did so in service of a point which you still haven't actually engaged with beyond "Nu uh!".

That’s not a fair take on what I’ve been posting at all. I said every little bit helps, but pointed out that motor sizes are already small.l

catapart4mo ago

10 lbs per motor in an aircraft is huge. And the fact that they can do it WITHOUT having to use more expensive materials or manufacturing or amenities is the thing that is huge about it.

It's a fair take on your responses because talking about a SINGLE motor is missing the point. You're not engaging with the actual point that OP made, you're trying to dispute OP by engaging in your own point about what difference this would make in single-motor cars, instead of what difference it will make in general.

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hinkley4mo ago

Smaller motor can be one per wheel which means a shorter drive shaft, less rotating weight which means more torque to the road under acceleration and deceleration.

Tesla still doing a gearbox? Their marketing has been telling me they got rid of those. Typical.

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catapart4mo ago

AurornisOP4mo ago

> Dropping 10 lbs per motor is HUGE.

Auto makers could drop 10lbs, 100lbs or even more from every EV right now by choosing more expensive materials, more expensive manufacturing processes, or simply cutting back on amenities.

10lbs is not significant in the grand scheme of things. The real question is how much it costs, what are the tradeoffs, and how practical is it.

> But I did so in service of a point which you still haven't actually engaged with beyond "Nu uh!".

That’s not a fair take on what I’ve been posting at all. I said every little bit helps, but pointed out that motor sizes are already small.l

catapart4mo ago

10 lbs per motor in an aircraft is huge. And the fact that they can do it WITHOUT having to use more expensive materials or manufacturing or amenities is the thing that is huge about it.

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hinkley4mo ago

Smaller motor can be one per wheel which means a shorter drive shaft, less rotating weight which means more torque to the road under acceleration and deceleration.

Tesla still doing a gearbox? Their marketing has been telling me they got rid of those. Typical.

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