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0 pointsloeg4mo ago0 comments

It's still a problem today, 2025. I think the LiveWire S2 models come closest, but they still have anemic range. (And we're ignoring cost, which is also much higher.)

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DANmode4mo ago

Problem implies “it’s not happening”.

Cost is a challenge.

These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

loegOP4mo ago

I mean, sales are largely "not happening." Livewire sells ~600 bikes a year. Buyers have the same objections I do.

> These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

Only the heaviest models, ridden extremely conservatively.

DANmode4mo ago

> Buyers have the same objections I do.

Buyers don’t know they exist, if they’ll struggle to register them, or how to work on them!

The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big?

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DANmode4mo ago

Problem implies “it’s not happening”.

Cost is a challenge.

These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

loegOP4mo ago

I mean, sales are largely "not happening." Livewire sells ~600 bikes a year. Buyers have the same objections I do.

> These things go 175 miles, up to 450+ miles if you have money.

Only the heaviest models, ridden extremely conservatively.

DANmode4mo ago

> Buyers have the same objections I do.

Buyers don’t know they exist, if they’ll struggle to register them, or how to work on them!

The heaviest ones seem like the same weight as a 600cc or 1000cc crotch rocket - am I missing something big?

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