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0 pointszdragnar4mo ago0 comments

Extradition of a foreign citizen to a third country is not a simple matter, diplomatically speaking. The US might not have the hegemony it enjoyed 20-30 years ago, but it certainly has plenty of sway.

When it's a matter of drug charges or other obviously criminal activity, the US embassy and diplomats don't normally raise a fuss, but for something like this where the person made first amendment protected speech in the US? That'd definitely raise all kinds of hell.

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qball4mo ago

Why would it?

Plenty of US citizens would actively cheer the notion of having a foreign government arrest their political opponents as an end-run around the fact they're not allowed to do it at home.

After all, 1A/"freeze peach" laws should only protect you from your government, right?

nozzlegear4mo ago

> Plenty of US citizens would actively cheer the notion of having a foreign government arrest their political opponents as an end-run around the fact they're not allowed to do it at home.

I'm not convinced that plenty of US citizens would celebrate a foreign government arresting an American for what would be protected by the 1A in the US. There will always be trolls, of course.

> After all, 1A/"freeze peach" laws should only protect you from your government, right?

If my government has the longest dick of all governments in the world, and knows how to swing it, I'm not so sure.

qball4mo ago

Plenty of US citizens openly celebrated the murder of an American for what was protected by the 1A in the US.

So no, I don't think that the people who celebrated that would care, and said people would actively support an administration that actively encouraged the UK in this manner for the same reason.

Danjoe44mo ago

Nope. US law is international law (because we have all the guns). The UK government would never defy us; they know their place.

incompatible4mo ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see the US administration being very selective about which "first amendment protected speech" they actually cared about. I can even imagine them rapidly extraditing somebody who's speech they didn't like, such as pro-abortion or anti-fascist.

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qball4mo ago

Why would it?

Plenty of US citizens would actively cheer the notion of having a foreign government arrest their political opponents as an end-run around the fact they're not allowed to do it at home.

After all, 1A/"freeze peach" laws should only protect you from your government, right?

nozzlegear4mo ago

> Plenty of US citizens would actively cheer the notion of having a foreign government arrest their political opponents as an end-run around the fact they're not allowed to do it at home.

I'm not convinced that plenty of US citizens would celebrate a foreign government arresting an American for what would be protected by the 1A in the US. There will always be trolls, of course.

> After all, 1A/"freeze peach" laws should only protect you from your government, right?

If my government has the longest dick of all governments in the world, and knows how to swing it, I'm not so sure.

qball4mo ago

Plenty of US citizens openly celebrated the murder of an American for what was protected by the 1A in the US.

So no, I don't think that the people who celebrated that would care, and said people would actively support an administration that actively encouraged the UK in this manner for the same reason.

Danjoe44mo ago

Nope. US law is international law (because we have all the guns). The UK government would never defy us; they know their place.

incompatible4mo ago

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