Dogalog: A realtime Prolog-based livecoding music environment (opens in new tab)

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7thaccount3mo ago

This reminds me of streudal:

https://strudel.cc/

https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/

I've seen some cool demos on YouTube from SwitchAngel.

liotier3mo ago

Both have a music domain specific language, but they differ in essential ways:

- Strudel, TidalCycles and FoxDot are temporal-first, designed for live performance, with code rewritten on the fly.

- Dogalog is a constraints-solving composition system, for offline use.

dannyayers3mo ago

Dogalog works live - try it.

thomascountz3mo ago

How are things going with Sonic Pi?[1] I have lots of fond memories and don't remember there being many strongly popular alternatives some years ago... though maybe I was living under a rock (..and roll).

[1]: https://sonic-pi.net/

runevault3mo ago

Feels like more and more of these sorts of things are popping up. For example there's TidalCycles which is a Haskell version of the idea, which also exists as https://strudel.cc/ which is I believe a webasm version of it.

lambdas3mo ago

Other way round, no? TidalCycles predates Sonic Pi by a number of years

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som3mo ago

Really appreciate the focus on education and a11y with sonic pi - a genuine differentiator

FelipeCortez3mo ago

it's still going: https://github.com/samaaron/tau5

dannyayers3mo ago

Co-creator (with Claude) here - thanks for the suggestions! I will be visiting it again in the near future.

Since first making it live I have added an AI connector but unfortunately have managed to break the server I had proxying to an LLM. I'll try and fix next session.

mparis3mo ago

I haven't tried the demo but I love this idea!

Would be cool if I could somehow constrain a chord to a key then enumerate the scale degrees that I want so I can make some real funky sounds that don't fit the standard Chord Qualities.

xonix3mo ago

Reminded me of bytebeats (though I admit it's a different thing): https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100f...

vilterp3mo ago

Very neat. Would love to see events for each instrument laid out along a timeline!

AlecSchueler3mo ago

Was it vibe-coded or is it just the README? Not a critique, just a question.

doug-moen3mo ago

Yes, it was vibe-coded, and the author says they still haven't learned Prolog yet. <https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog...>

dannyayers3mo ago

I did study Prolog in a past life but it never really stuck. It was vibe coded but I spent a lot of time planning prompts - I've had to deal with Claude's style (cruft explosion) in other projects, so I had my eyes open on this one.

linesofcode3mo ago

Love this! Musically I’m a noob but this I can understand!

chrisjj3mo ago

Looks great! But on latest Android Chrome here, the live demo plays two hits then silence.

Avshalom3mo ago

I have absolutely no idea what to do with this but I'mma play around with it.

Avshalom3mo ago

also just pops into my head https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ for an entirely unrelated and completely different project that welds time onto prolog

aethrum3mo ago

Volume warning on that demo, lol

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21 comments

7thaccount3mo ago

This reminds me of streudal:

https://strudel.cc/

https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/

I've seen some cool demos on YouTube from SwitchAngel.

liotier3mo ago

Both have a music domain specific language, but they differ in essential ways:

- Strudel, TidalCycles and FoxDot are temporal-first, designed for live performance, with code rewritten on the fly.

- Dogalog is a constraints-solving composition system, for offline use.

dannyayers3mo ago

Dogalog works live - try it.

thomascountz3mo ago

[1]: https://sonic-pi.net/

runevault3mo ago

lambdas3mo ago

Other way round, no? TidalCycles predates Sonic Pi by a number of years

1 more reply

som3mo ago

Really appreciate the focus on education and a11y with sonic pi - a genuine differentiator

FelipeCortez3mo ago

it's still going: https://github.com/samaaron/tau5

dannyayers3mo ago

Co-creator (with Claude) here - thanks for the suggestions! I will be visiting it again in the near future.

Since first making it live I have added an AI connector but unfortunately have managed to break the server I had proxying to an LLM. I'll try and fix next session.

mparis3mo ago

I haven't tried the demo but I love this idea!

Would be cool if I could somehow constrain a chord to a key then enumerate the scale degrees that I want so I can make some real funky sounds that don't fit the standard Chord Qualities.

xonix3mo ago

Reminded me of bytebeats (though I admit it's a different thing): https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100f...

vilterp3mo ago

Very neat. Would love to see events for each instrument laid out along a timeline!

AlecSchueler3mo ago

Was it vibe-coded or is it just the README? Not a critique, just a question.

doug-moen3mo ago

Yes, it was vibe-coded, and the author says they still haven't learned Prolog yet. <https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog...>

dannyayers3mo ago

linesofcode3mo ago

Love this! Musically I’m a noob but this I can understand!

chrisjj3mo ago

Looks great! But on latest Android Chrome here, the live demo plays two hits then silence.

Avshalom3mo ago

I have absolutely no idea what to do with this but I'mma play around with it.

Avshalom3mo ago

also just pops into my head https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ for an entirely unrelated and completely different project that welds time onto prolog

aethrum3mo ago

Volume warning on that demo, lol

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