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0 pointsleeoniya13y ago0 comments

jQuery, while hugely popular, is not a standard.

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You might want to lookup the term "de-facto standard":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto_standard

your condescending tone aside, jQuery's API and vendor support is subject to change, especially in the coming months. last i heard, 50% usage also means 50% non-usage. you are also assuming that the target is a web browser, which is what jQuery is meant for. jQuery has no bearing on firefox extension programming, nodejs programming, or upcoming win8 RT and Firefox OS programming.

dmorgan13y ago

>your condescending tone aside, jQuery's API and vendor support is subject to change, especially in the coming months. last i heard, 50% usage also means 50% non-usage.

I'm afraid the points you make are not gonna help with my condescending tone.

50% usage? That's a HUGE success for a de-facto standard. There are even _official_ standards with much LESS use (SOAP comes to mind). So, the "50% non usage" part means absolutely nothing.

>you are also assuming that the target is a web browser, which is what jQuery is meant for. jQuery has no bearing on firefox extension programming, nodejs programming, or upcoming win8 RT and Firefox OS programming

Even if that was true, it would be irrelevant. Yes, a standard is only a standard is some SPECIFIC field. RS-232 is a standard, but has no bearing on, say, building construction. And those ANSI Screw size standards have no bearing at all in software: http://www.engineersedge.com/screw_threads_chart.htm

That doesn't make them any less standard.

That said, your examples are also false. jQuery can and IS used in nodejs AND in firefox extension programming. And presummably Firefox OS programming. Some examples:

http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/how-to-scr...

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/491490/how-to-use-jquery-...

JamisonM13y ago

Shouldn't the point of the "web platform" be that they make de-facto standards like JQuery obsolete? It seems to me that the examples and information on this site should be based on code that will work on all browsers without an intermediary between the code and the software these vendors (mostly) produce.

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dmorgan13y ago

You might want to lookup the term "de-facto standard":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto_standard

leeoniyaOP13y ago

dmorgan13y ago

>your condescending tone aside, jQuery's API and vendor support is subject to change, especially in the coming months. last i heard, 50% usage also means 50% non-usage.

I'm afraid the points you make are not gonna help with my condescending tone.

50% usage? That's a HUGE success for a de-facto standard. There are even _official_ standards with much LESS use (SOAP comes to mind). So, the "50% non usage" part means absolutely nothing.

That doesn't make them any less standard.

That said, your examples are also false. jQuery can and IS used in nodejs AND in firefox extension programming. And presummably Firefox OS programming. Some examples:

http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/how-to-scr...

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/491490/how-to-use-jquery-...

JamisonM13y ago

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