undefined | Better HN

0 pointsglenstein5mo ago0 comments

>So if you have a billion in the bank,

I just want to note that this is what is sometimes called carouseling. Which is, instead of acknowledging the original accusation was not correct, which is what should be happening, this comment just proceeds right on to the next accusation.

What is happening, psychologically speaking, that is causing a mass of people to spew one confidently wrong accusation after another? They don't have an endowment (they do!). Well they're not investing it! (they are). Well they're not working on the browser! (they shipped 12 major releases with thousands of patches per release with everything from new tab grouping and stacking to improved gpu performance to security fixes)

This is like a dancing sickness or something.

0 comments

Teever5mo ago

> "...if they had seen Mozilla making the financial moves that would have made it an independent and self-sufficient entity."

Does their endowment fund enable them to be an independent and self-sufficient entity?

In other words, Can they live off it in perpetuity?

pseudalopex5mo ago

The question is if their endowment can fund a competitive independent web browser in perpetuity. Looking at other web browsers suggests no.

glensteinOP5mo ago

Let's start with the acknowledgement of carouseling.

wtallis5mo ago

There's nothing to acknowledge. You're asking everyone to accept the presumption embedded in the statement that a billion dollars "goes away quickly when you're a large company paying lots of money to salaries", namely that Mozilla should be a large company and should rely on a steady stream of outside money instead of seeking sustainable financial independence. But Mozilla's lack of focus and excessive spending on side projects is a major part of the complaints against Mozilla, and you aren't even trying to make a reasonable case that Mozilla needs to be spending money like that.

Teever5mo ago

I don't understand how what you're accusing me of pertains to anything I've written here today.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 comments

Teever5mo ago

> "...if they had seen Mozilla making the financial moves that would have made it an independent and self-sufficient entity."

Does their endowment fund enable them to be an independent and self-sufficient entity?

In other words, Can they live off it in perpetuity?

pseudalopex5mo ago

The question is if their endowment can fund a competitive independent web browser in perpetuity. Looking at other web browsers suggests no.

glensteinOP5mo ago

Let's start with the acknowledgement of carouseling.

wtallis5mo ago

Teever5mo ago

I don't understand how what you're accusing me of pertains to anything I've written here today.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse