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0 pointsartyom2mo ago0 comments

I'm kind of with you on this one. 12yo is old enough to understand the rules (assuming they were clearly set) and if he/she was willingly communicating with a stranger, that phone should get the hammer with no replacement whatsoever. I've seen this done, it works.

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GaryBluto2mo ago

> that phone should get the hammer with no replacement whatsoever.

Trying to scare children into following rules does not and will not end well.

> I've seen this done, it works.

You think it works because the child has realized that they will need to be better at hiding their actions in the future.

petermcneeley2mo ago

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GaryBluto2mo ago

Can you actually refute anything I'm saying without having to resort to ad hominems?

I believe in discipline but smashing a device violently in front of a child is not the way to go about things.

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artyomOP2mo ago

Well, I know what you mean but the parent comment kinda suggests accountability isn't really a thing.

ceayo2mo ago

What I believe the author did was instead of teaching their child that they may not talk to strangers, they believed there just is a magic button to have these strangers not exist.

artyomOP2mo ago

If that's the case, then rules weren't clearly stated, if stated, at all.

polotics2mo ago

Kids make mistakes. You do not want predators to use the threat of your punishment as a lever on your kid.

artyomOP2mo ago

You can't control or decide what predators will do. And very likely won't be able to imagine the extent of every single of their convoluted predatory practices by yourself.

So instead of trying to cover every possible theoretical danger, setting clear rules and boundaries with your kid sounds like a way more sensible and pragmatic approach.

And nobody said kids should be punished or held fully accountable on their first mistake.

petermcneeley2mo ago

If you apply this concept broadly you will see this isnt a great philosophy.

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GaryBluto2mo ago

> that phone should get the hammer with no replacement whatsoever.

Trying to scare children into following rules does not and will not end well.

> I've seen this done, it works.

You think it works because the child has realized that they will need to be better at hiding their actions in the future.

petermcneeley2mo ago

user: GaryBluto created: 3 months ago

GaryBluto2mo ago

Can you actually refute anything I'm saying without having to resort to ad hominems?

I believe in discipline but smashing a device violently in front of a child is not the way to go about things.

1 more reply

artyomOP2mo ago

Well, I know what you mean but the parent comment kinda suggests accountability isn't really a thing.

ceayo2mo ago

What I believe the author did was instead of teaching their child that they may not talk to strangers, they believed there just is a magic button to have these strangers not exist.

artyomOP2mo ago

If that's the case, then rules weren't clearly stated, if stated, at all.

polotics2mo ago

Kids make mistakes. You do not want predators to use the threat of your punishment as a lever on your kid.

artyomOP2mo ago

You can't control or decide what predators will do. And very likely won't be able to imagine the extent of every single of their convoluted predatory practices by yourself.

So instead of trying to cover every possible theoretical danger, setting clear rules and boundaries with your kid sounds like a way more sensible and pragmatic approach.

And nobody said kids should be punished or held fully accountable on their first mistake.

petermcneeley2mo ago

If you apply this concept broadly you will see this isnt a great philosophy.

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