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0 pointscosmicgadget2mo ago0 comments

Well considering Taiwan's independence and Putin's absolute obsession over NATO, it seems like the score ought to reflect the whole story. I'm not saying it's great, but it's gotta be better than historical comparables.

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4gotunameagain2mo ago

I am against China attacking Taiwan, I am against Russia attacking Ukraine, but I am also against Ukraine wanting to join NATO. The war started because of NATO and the US, and it almost fucked us over here in Germany when the US helped the Ukrainians blow up Nord Stream.

I am against any offensive action which leads to the misery and impoverishment of people, for some stupid power games of power hungry idiots.

cosmicgadgetOP2mo ago

I am sorry, you are blaming the United States for Russia invading Ukraine? Because Ukraine wanted to join a defensive alliance to protect themselves from a country that invaded them in 2014 and tried to keep their puppet in power before Maidan punted him?

Hilarious.

4gotunameagain2mo ago

Do you think it is realistic that a (relatively) small country next to a superpower seeks protection from the rival superpower ?

What would happen if panama wanted to join a defence pact with Russia ?

What happened during the Cuban missile crisis ?

I wish all countries could be independent and free of meddling from superpowers. But at some moment you have to be realistic.

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wiseowise2mo ago

> The war started because of NATO and the US

"Bro please just look at the expansion map. I swear bro the war started because of NATO and the US. It’s not an invasion bro it’s a forced reaction to unipolar hegemony. Just one more provocation and the bear had to bite back. Please bro just admit it's a proxy war. I promise bro if the West just stayed out of the sphere of influence everything would be fine."

4gotunameagain2mo ago

Do you have anything of substance to add ?

This tribalism that you display is exactly the reason that we end up in situations that we have. Do not pledge tribal allegiance to anyone. Pledge allegiance to critical thinking.

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4gotunameagain2mo ago

I am against any offensive action which leads to the misery and impoverishment of people, for some stupid power games of power hungry idiots.

cosmicgadgetOP2mo ago

Hilarious.

4gotunameagain2mo ago

Do you think it is realistic that a (relatively) small country next to a superpower seeks protection from the rival superpower ?

What would happen if panama wanted to join a defence pact with Russia ?

What happened during the Cuban missile crisis ?

I wish all countries could be independent and free of meddling from superpowers. But at some moment you have to be realistic.

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wiseowise2mo ago

> The war started because of NATO and the US

4gotunameagain2mo ago

Do you have anything of substance to add ?

This tribalism that you display is exactly the reason that we end up in situations that we have. Do not pledge tribal allegiance to anyone. Pledge allegiance to critical thinking.

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