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0 pointsjopsen5mo ago0 comments

You forget that the cold war wasn't won by the US alone. But by the alliance systems which centered around the US.

The US is no longer a credible partner, and without coalition forces the recreational wars in the 2000s would have been a lot less "fun".

I'm not so sure you want a global order based on strength. You don't want small countries with little to loose arming do with nukes. But voting for it is suddenly very attractive.

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mytailorisrich5mo ago· 1 in thread

That's interesting because the post-WWII Western alliance system at large is largely born of the US military and economic might: most of those countries were invaded by the US and then helped economically by the US. Obviously a commom adversary (the communists) helped but it was, and still is "led" by the US for a reason.

The global order is based on strength, both military and economic strength. I am just stating the obvious here.

jopsenOP5mo ago

Countries that joined NATO did so voluntarily. The pressure to join NATO was never from the US, it was always from Russia.

> The global order is based on strength,

To an extend yes, but small countries wouldn't be as eager or willing to play with the US, if the rules weren't largely followed.

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