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0 pointsbutlike2mo ago0 comments

What's the point of the analogy? That the bear just moves on? Genuine question; I've never heard this one before.

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Possibly apocryphal quote from a Yosemite park ranger talking about the difficulty of designing a trash can that a bear can't open but a human can: "There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=191810&cid=15757347 (earliest instance of it I can find)

I don't really follow the analogy here to be honest.

cyanydeez2mo ago

The analogy is that AI is suppose to be able to do _What humans do_ but better.

But you also want AI to be more secure. To make it more secure, you'll have to prevent the user from doing things _they already do_.

Which is impossible. The current LLM AI/Agent race is a non-deterministic GIGO and will never be secure because it's fundamentally about mimicing humans who are absolutely not secure.

rirze2mo ago

Probably referring to the rat's race between making trash cans hard for bears to tamper but usable for tourists.

The analogy is probably implying there is considerable overlap between the smartest average AI user and the dumbest computer-science-related professional. In this case, when it comes to, "what is this suspicious file?".

Which I agree.

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