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0 pointsrcMgD2BwE72F4mo ago0 comments

No. I'm on GrapheneOS and not tied to Google.

You must be thinking of the Google Play Services but these aren't required by GrapheneOS.

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No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.

Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.

It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

Hopefully that can change, in the future

It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368

It could change now, it could have changed years ago, they just have no interest in trying. It's pretty annoying honestly.

pjmlp4mo ago

As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.

Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates.

This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

pjmlp4mo ago

Ah but it does, as Google can decide to close down AOSP shop at any moment.

brnt4mo ago

Anyone on Graphene is tied tot Google, for it requires Google hardware.

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izacus4mo ago

No, we're thinking about the fact that Android is Google owned and developed and no removal of Play Services changes that.

Every Android ROM is critically dependant on Googles work to actually develop and secure the OS.

It is tied to google inasmuch all target phones are google branded. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

Hopefully that can change, in the future

It's tied to Google's development strategy, such as removal of Manifest-V2, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41905368

It could change now, it could have changed years ago, they just have no interest in trying. It's pretty annoying honestly.

pjmlp4mo ago

As long as it depends on Google paying upstream development that GrapheneOS updates from, it is tied to Google.

Now if GrapheneOS was its own thing without additional AOSP code updates.

This becomes sophistry, though. "tied to" in a way that doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

pjmlp4mo ago

Ah but it does, as Google can decide to close down AOSP shop at any moment.

brnt4mo ago

Anyone on Graphene is tied tot Google, for it requires Google hardware.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse