3D-Printed Mathematical Lampshades (opens in new tab)

(hessammehr.github.io)

75 pointshessammehr2mo ago31 comments

31 comments

givc1mo ago

This is awesome. I’ve also been playing with OnShape to make lamps and it’s been quite challenging. I also tried Blender but the learning curve is just too steep for me. I like this idea of using Python. I might try OpenSCAD too like someone else suggested.

Here’s my lamp if you’re curious, printed with a .8 mm nozzle, otherwise it would fail https://imgur.com/a/mRqw1pI

alhirzel1mo ago

Try cadquery also!

https://github.com/CadQuery/cadquery

geokon1mo ago

heres an example of OpenSCAD in Clojure

https://www.juxt.pro/blog/designing-3d-printable-objects-wit...

Looks quite fun

godelski1mo ago

FYI FreeCAD also has Python support

And you're saying it would fail with a nozzle smaller than 0.8mm?!

hessammehrOP1mo ago

Just noticed that this has made it to the front page, so just had a quick look through to see if there are any broken links, etc. (as I have a habit of forgetting them) and added the missing OnShape link to the LED strip diffuser.

Also recommend checking out the live Marimo notebook linked down at the bottom. Incredible what you can do with Pyodide + Marimo these days. I only wish there was a webassembly version of jax to make it easier to share random numpyro experiments.

mlmonkey1mo ago

In theory, one should be able to use OpenSCAD to come up with fancy surfaces to 3-D print, right?

I'm just dipping my toes in 3D printing, with a recent acquisition of a Bambu P2S

givc1mo ago

I used OpenSCAD to create a map of Manhattan. It shows the live location of subway trains. It was surprisingly easy, I struggled a lot with OnShape and Fusion360 trying to do this because there were too many polygons.

I found that starting with an SVG and extruding from there is perfect in OpenSCAD, but I’m sure I’m underutilizing it a lot.

I wrote a bit about it here if you’re curious https://hackaday.io/project/202488-manhattan-subway-map/deta...

dekhn1mo ago

Cool project, but just how many polygons are you talking about? Also, my guess is you did meshes, instead of breps- they are far more efficient in my experience.

The largest mesh I worked with in Fusion 360 is a digital elevation map of California, it has 2.8M vertices and 5.6M faces and it's still possible to get things done (like making a CAM to carve a 2 foot x 2 foot map with reasonable details).

hessammehrOP1mo ago

I haven't used OpenSCAD much beyond combining primitives. Truthfully these organic shapes are more of a use-case for 3D modelling software like Blender rather than CAD, but I'd be keen to hear if you end up giving OpenSCAD a go.

My Bambu A1 mini has been reliable despite the challenging geometry; pretty sure your P2S will work just as well if not better. Good luck!

Zarathruster1mo ago

I was in your shoes about a year ago with an A1 mini, getting into OpenSCAD to make my own keycaps.

If you're getting into OpenSCAD I'd highly recommend getting Belfry ASAP.

https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki

I wouldn't really consider using OpenSCAD without it

dole1mo ago

I was able to take the image of the star-shaped graph from OP, fed it to claude and used this for the prompt: "figure out a good formula or equation for this graph and use it to create the lampshade in openscad. use the graph as the bottom for a lampshade, and taper it all up to center point. leave a hole at the top big enough for a lightbulb fixture to pass through." It did a surprisingly good job of generating the OpenSCAD, STL, and preview renders in-browsers.

aforwardslash1mo ago

> In theory, one should be able to use OpenSCAD to come up with fancy surfaces to 3-D print, right?

Yes, but it is painfully slow. Even perforated patterns are quite slow to generate.

MengerSponge1mo ago

Aside from Fusion360, is there a Free (or FOSS) cad package that uses breps and is scriptable?

Fusion360 is just stupid fast at perforations and sophisticated modeling constructions via its python API. I use it because it works well, but I'd be happier if I didn't have to maintain that Autodesk dependency...

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dheera1mo ago

OpenSCAD nightly using the Manifold engine is a lot faster than the CGAL crap the stable version ships with

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horacemorace1mo ago

Yes. Claude is surprisingly capable in this area, maybe because the shapes are so simple. Using a slicer in vase mode should make it print quickly too.

dheera1mo ago

Yeah OpenSCAD would have made this a lot easier than the exported-SVG-DXF pipeline

nomel1mo ago

For this case, I'm not exaggerating when I say you would probably have an easier time generating the meshes yourself in python and something like the trimesh library to load the vertices into.

Aurornis1mo ago

Cool project. The author used PLA, but for anything near a heat source PETG or ASA would be a better choice. PLA will soften and deform at only mildly elevated temperatures. An LED light strip will generate enough heat to cause normal PLA to warp and droop over time.

JKCalhoun1mo ago

Was going to comment similar. Definitely don't want to use these lamp shades with incandescent bulbs (too hot).

As per drooping over time, perhaps for some of these models the "Persistence of Memory" might apply a nice transform to the shapes.

hessammehrOP1mo ago

Good to know about the risk of deformation due to heat from the LED strip. Ours hasn’t visibly warped over the past few months of use, fingers crossed it will last a little while

nszceta1mo ago

Author should consider going straight to G-CODE (skip the STL)

bschwindHN1mo ago

I came here to comment this too - if your surface is entirely mathematically defined, converting that to what your 3D printer speaks is probably easier and gives better results than approximating it with triangles and then converting those triangles to G-code.

endymion-light1mo ago

Very cool - what would you recomend in terms of just getting started learning parametric design? It feels like one of my complete blank spots

hessammehrOP1mo ago

I would recommend Onshape to start. The user interface and documentation are stellar and you don't need to install anything to get started.

lambdaone1mo ago

Great, but PLA is somewhat flammable.

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givc1mo ago

Here’s my lamp if you’re curious, printed with a .8 mm nozzle, otherwise it would fail https://imgur.com/a/mRqw1pI

alhirzel1mo ago

Try cadquery also!

https://github.com/CadQuery/cadquery

geokon1mo ago

heres an example of OpenSCAD in Clojure

https://www.juxt.pro/blog/designing-3d-printable-objects-wit...

Looks quite fun

godelski1mo ago

FYI FreeCAD also has Python support

And you're saying it would fail with a nozzle smaller than 0.8mm?!

hessammehrOP1mo ago

mlmonkey1mo ago

In theory, one should be able to use OpenSCAD to come up with fancy surfaces to 3-D print, right?

I'm just dipping my toes in 3D printing, with a recent acquisition of a Bambu P2S

givc1mo ago

I found that starting with an SVG and extruding from there is perfect in OpenSCAD, but I’m sure I’m underutilizing it a lot.

I wrote a bit about it here if you’re curious https://hackaday.io/project/202488-manhattan-subway-map/deta...

dekhn1mo ago

Cool project, but just how many polygons are you talking about? Also, my guess is you did meshes, instead of breps- they are far more efficient in my experience.

hessammehrOP1mo ago

My Bambu A1 mini has been reliable despite the challenging geometry; pretty sure your P2S will work just as well if not better. Good luck!

Zarathruster1mo ago

I was in your shoes about a year ago with an A1 mini, getting into OpenSCAD to make my own keycaps.

If you're getting into OpenSCAD I'd highly recommend getting Belfry ASAP.

https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki

I wouldn't really consider using OpenSCAD without it

dole1mo ago

aforwardslash1mo ago

> In theory, one should be able to use OpenSCAD to come up with fancy surfaces to 3-D print, right?

Yes, but it is painfully slow. Even perforated patterns are quite slow to generate.

MengerSponge1mo ago

Aside from Fusion360, is there a Free (or FOSS) cad package that uses breps and is scriptable?

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dheera1mo ago

OpenSCAD nightly using the Manifold engine is a lot faster than the CGAL crap the stable version ships with

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horacemorace1mo ago

Yes. Claude is surprisingly capable in this area, maybe because the shapes are so simple. Using a slicer in vase mode should make it print quickly too.

dheera1mo ago

Yeah OpenSCAD would have made this a lot easier than the exported-SVG-DXF pipeline

nomel1mo ago

For this case, I'm not exaggerating when I say you would probably have an easier time generating the meshes yourself in python and something like the trimesh library to load the vertices into.

Aurornis1mo ago

JKCalhoun1mo ago

Was going to comment similar. Definitely don't want to use these lamp shades with incandescent bulbs (too hot).

As per drooping over time, perhaps for some of these models the "Persistence of Memory" might apply a nice transform to the shapes.

hessammehrOP1mo ago

Good to know about the risk of deformation due to heat from the LED strip. Ours hasn’t visibly warped over the past few months of use, fingers crossed it will last a little while

nszceta1mo ago

Author should consider going straight to G-CODE (skip the STL)

bschwindHN1mo ago

endymion-light1mo ago

Very cool - what would you recomend in terms of just getting started learning parametric design? It feels like one of my complete blank spots

hessammehrOP1mo ago

I would recommend Onshape to start. The user interface and documentation are stellar and you don't need to install anything to get started.

lambdaone1mo ago

Great, but PLA is somewhat flammable.

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