To establish that citizens of the US shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance [pdf] (opens in new tab)

(moreno.senate.gov)

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Not likely to actually go anywhere. It hasn't even gone to committee.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/s3283

Still, good to be aware of what is out there. Call your representatives on anything you see that sounds like a bad idea.

stockresearcher1mo ago

So far in the 119th congress there have been 3688 bills filed in the Senate. A fraction of a percent of them will ever get talked about, voted on, or passed an sent to the House. It’s performative theatre for the constituents back home.

And especially, if you’ve noticed, lately the Senate has taken to gaveling into session for the sole purpose of declaring a recess until the next day - being in session for less than 30 seconds a day! Today, they were in session for 11 seconds…

evan_a_a1mo ago

This is typical for the senate. It’s called the “pro-forma session”. This is primarily done so that the senate is never truly in recess and thus blocks the president’s power to make recess appointments.

https://legalclarity.org/what-is-a-pro-forma-session-and-how...

barbazoo1mo ago

The language reminds me of how Germany handled dual citizenships until very recently, taking away the German citizenship unless a years long opaque retention certificate application process wasn't followed.

MarkusWandel1mo ago

Until recently? Honest question, what is the rule now? Source?

barbazoo1mo ago

You don’t need a Beibehaltungsgenehmigung anymore before taking on another citizenship.

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LostMyLoginOP1mo ago

Full title: To establish that citizens of the United States shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance to the United States, and for other purposes.

ungreased06751mo ago

What problem is this intended to solve?

bediger40001mo ago

This is going to sound frivolous on first reading, but I don't mean it that way. Proles having dual citizenship might be able to escape Trump's vengeance by having their other country intervene.

Of course sufficiently wealthy people will always be able to buy their way out of trouble.

hn_acker1mo ago

An allegience bill introduced by Bernie Moreno, huh. In my opinion, any federal government official who denies the 2020 election has violated their allegiance to the United States. As early as 2021 [1]:

> After the 2020 presidential election, Moreno criticized those denying the results of the election, but in 2021 expressed his belief that the election had been "stolen".

And as late as 2024 [2]:

> In paid advertising before the primary, Moreno had embraced Trump’s lies about the 2020 election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

> “President Trump says the election was stolen and he’s right,” Moreno said in one digital ad.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Moreno#Political_positi...

[2] https://apnews.com/article/republicans-ohio-moreno-trump-she...

mikeaskew41mo ago

Moreno is Santos with zero panache.

jjgreen1mo ago

Feels a bit ... needy?

Jtsummers1mo ago

It'll be interesting to see how far this gets. A lot of wealthy people in the US have multiple citizenship. Elon Musk, for instance, holds citizenship status in three countries. Thiel in the US and New Zealand.

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codingdave1mo ago

Not likely to actually go anywhere. It hasn't even gone to committee.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/s3283

Still, good to be aware of what is out there. Call your representatives on anything you see that sounds like a bad idea.

stockresearcher1mo ago

evan_a_a1mo ago

https://legalclarity.org/what-is-a-pro-forma-session-and-how...

barbazoo1mo ago

MarkusWandel1mo ago

Until recently? Honest question, what is the rule now? Source?

barbazoo1mo ago

You don’t need a Beibehaltungsgenehmigung anymore before taking on another citizenship.

1 more reply

LostMyLoginOP1mo ago

Full title: To establish that citizens of the United States shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance to the United States, and for other purposes.

ungreased06751mo ago

What problem is this intended to solve?

bediger40001mo ago

This is going to sound frivolous on first reading, but I don't mean it that way. Proles having dual citizenship might be able to escape Trump's vengeance by having their other country intervene.

Of course sufficiently wealthy people will always be able to buy their way out of trouble.

hn_acker1mo ago

> After the 2020 presidential election, Moreno criticized those denying the results of the election, but in 2021 expressed his belief that the election had been "stolen".

And as late as 2024 [2]:

> In paid advertising before the primary, Moreno had embraced Trump’s lies about the 2020 election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

> “President Trump says the election was stolen and he’s right,” Moreno said in one digital ad.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Moreno#Political_positi...

[2] https://apnews.com/article/republicans-ohio-moreno-trump-she...

mikeaskew41mo ago

Moreno is Santos with zero panache.

jjgreen1mo ago

Feels a bit ... needy?

Jtsummers1mo ago

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