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0 pointsjplusequalt1mo ago0 comments

>$15.98 * 1.5 * 20 = $497,40 a month

Are people seriously dropping hundreds of dollars a month on these products to get their work done?

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I am not really happy with thinking about what this does to small companies, hobbyists, open source programmers and so on, if it becomes a necessity to be competitive.

Especially since so many of those models have just freely ingested a whole bunch of open source software to be able to do what they do.

tatjam1mo ago

It's perfectly framed in the loss of local-compute autonomy that seems to be the trend nowadays: https://andrewkelley.me/post/renting-is-for-suckers.html

If it wasn't obvious by now, the big capital doesn't really care about open source, hobby coding or small companies.

jon_north1mo ago

If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, $500 is 5% of revenue. All else held equal, if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer.

The question is.. does it actually help you do that, or do you go 0% faster? Or 5% slower?

Inquiring minds want to know.

jplusequaltOP1mo ago

>If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!,

This is the sort of statement that immediately tells me this forum is disconnected from the real world. ~80% of full time workers in the US make less than $10k a month before tax.

Source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

dysoco1mo ago

10k is more close to a yearly software developer salary in my country than a monthly one.

That being said at least the $20/mo Claude Code subscription is really worth it, and many companies are paying for the AI tools anyways.

jon_north1mo ago

And yet, the average salary of an IT worker in the US is somewhere between 104 and 110k. Since we're discussing coders here, and IT workers tend to be at the lower end of that, maybe there is some context you didn't consider?

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jplusequaltOP1mo ago

>if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer.

Another thing--is your job paying you $500 more per month for going 20% faster?

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davidw1mo ago

I am not really happy with thinking about what this does to small companies, hobbyists, open source programmers and so on, if it becomes a necessity to be competitive.

Especially since so many of those models have just freely ingested a whole bunch of open source software to be able to do what they do.

tatjam1mo ago

It's perfectly framed in the loss of local-compute autonomy that seems to be the trend nowadays: https://andrewkelley.me/post/renting-is-for-suckers.html

If it wasn't obvious by now, the big capital doesn't really care about open source, hobby coding or small companies.

jon_north1mo ago

If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!, $500 is 5% of revenue. All else held equal, if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer.

The question is.. does it actually help you do that, or do you go 0% faster? Or 5% slower?

Inquiring minds want to know.

jplusequaltOP1mo ago

>If you make 10k/mo -- which is not that much!,

This is the sort of statement that immediately tells me this forum is disconnected from the real world. ~80% of full time workers in the US make less than $10k a month before tax.

Source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

dysoco1mo ago

10k is more close to a yearly software developer salary in my country than a monthly one.

That being said at least the $20/mo Claude Code subscription is really worth it, and many companies are paying for the AI tools anyways.

jon_north1mo ago

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jplusequaltOP1mo ago

>if that helps you go 20% faster, it's an absolute no brainer.

Another thing--is your job paying you $500 more per month for going 20% faster?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse