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0 pointslittlestymaar3mo ago0 comments

Or “design cities to be less car centric so we can keep the antisocial drivers out of a car”. It's definitely a system issue.

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alt2273mo ago

Why jump to cities? Low speed traffic in cities is not the main location of car collisions.

The main issue is highways and rural roads.

b40d-48b2-979e3mo ago

    The main issue is highways and rural roads.

Source? I'd wager most accidents happen where the most people are. Cities.

hydrogen78003mo ago

> I'd wager most accidents happen where the most people are. Cities.

Sure, in absolute numbers. But..

In the US, highest deaths per 100M vehicle miles:

1.79 - Mississippi

1.73 - Arizona

1.72 - South Carolina

And the lowest:

0.56 - Massachusetts

0.70 - Minnesota

0.78 - New Jersey

Or, highest per 100,000 population:

25 - Mississippi

25 - Wyoming

21 - New Mexico

Lowest per 100,000:

4.9 - Massachusetts

5.7 - New York

6.5 - New Jersey

Maybe the average MS driver drives 3-5x as many miles as the average MA driver? I doubt it. Something else happening there.

https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/deta...

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

Fortunately deaths are only a fraction of the accidents though, and it's not even necessarily the kind of accident that bothers insurance companies the most as long as the driver only kills himself.

alt2273mo ago

It seems we are talking about different things.

The majority of car collisions happen on urban roads where the majority of cars are.

The majority of fatal collisions occur on rural roads, where vehicles are travelling faster.

I live in the UK.

https://www.simplyquote.co.uk/insights/where-do-most-car-acc...

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

“Highways” and “city” aren't incompatible, quite the opposite: most of the traffic on highways is commuting, in urban areas.

alt2273mo ago

.... in the USA.

I live in the UK where highways majority used for inter city transport.

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

I can't tell about the UK, but it's definitely true as well in France and Germany.

And a quick look at map of London and Birmingham suggests that it may very well be the case in the UK as well…

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alt2273mo ago

Why jump to cities? Low speed traffic in cities is not the main location of car collisions.

The main issue is highways and rural roads.

b40d-48b2-979e3mo ago

    The main issue is highways and rural roads.

Source? I'd wager most accidents happen where the most people are. Cities.

hydrogen78003mo ago

> I'd wager most accidents happen where the most people are. Cities.

Sure, in absolute numbers. But..

In the US, highest deaths per 100M vehicle miles:

1.79 - Mississippi

1.73 - Arizona

1.72 - South Carolina

And the lowest:

0.56 - Massachusetts

0.70 - Minnesota

0.78 - New Jersey

Or, highest per 100,000 population:

25 - Mississippi

25 - Wyoming

21 - New Mexico

Lowest per 100,000:

4.9 - Massachusetts

5.7 - New York

6.5 - New Jersey

Maybe the average MS driver drives 3-5x as many miles as the average MA driver? I doubt it. Something else happening there.

https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/deta...

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

Fortunately deaths are only a fraction of the accidents though, and it's not even necessarily the kind of accident that bothers insurance companies the most as long as the driver only kills himself.

alt2273mo ago

It seems we are talking about different things.

The majority of car collisions happen on urban roads where the majority of cars are.

The majority of fatal collisions occur on rural roads, where vehicles are travelling faster.

I live in the UK.

https://www.simplyquote.co.uk/insights/where-do-most-car-acc...

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

“Highways” and “city” aren't incompatible, quite the opposite: most of the traffic on highways is commuting, in urban areas.

alt2273mo ago

.... in the USA.

I live in the UK where highways majority used for inter city transport.

littlestymaarOP3mo ago

I can't tell about the UK, but it's definitely true as well in France and Germany.

And a quick look at map of London and Birmingham suggests that it may very well be the case in the UK as well…

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