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0 pointsben_w1mo ago0 comments

> The truth gets through.

It often doesn't at all, drowned amongst lies.

And sometimes it takes a lifetime or two.

It took Boris Yeltsin, who had just become the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, actually visiting a random grocery store in Houston before he realised what the truth was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_visit_by_Boris_Yeltsin_to...

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snowpid1mo ago

most common people were aware of the cliff in economy between capitalist and communist states. Hence we had so many revolution and communism lost.

This was a communist apparatchik. Its like showing truth to MAGA people. Most wont accept it.

ben_wOP1mo ago

> Its like showing truth to MAGA people. Most wont accept it.

Could be. That was the other example I was considering using besides Yeltsin, but I figured it would immediately get met with "no u" responses from those who, as you say, won't accept it. That makes for boring conversations where I learn nothing.

snowpid1mo ago

see it this way. Yelzin's reaction was very surprising. You can see how other communist burocrats reacted to facts.

Even in democratic societies politicians don't change their beliefs so fast (maybe most human?). But luckily we can vote them out so this is not a big problem.

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0 pointsben_w1mo ago0 comments

> The truth gets through.

It often doesn't at all, drowned amongst lies.

And sometimes it takes a lifetime or two.

It took Boris Yeltsin, who had just become the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, actually visiting a random grocery store in Houston before he realised what the truth was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_visit_by_Boris_Yeltsin_to...

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snowpid1mo ago

most common people were aware of the cliff in economy between capitalist and communist states. Hence we had so many revolution and communism lost.

This was a communist apparatchik. Its like showing truth to MAGA people. Most wont accept it.

ben_wOP1mo ago

> Its like showing truth to MAGA people. Most wont accept it.

snowpid1mo ago

see it this way. Yelzin's reaction was very surprising. You can see how other communist burocrats reacted to facts.

Even in democratic societies politicians don't change their beliefs so fast (maybe most human?). But luckily we can vote them out so this is not a big problem.

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