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0 pointsJCattheATM3mo ago0 comments

> Well, it doesn't, at least not at the moment. Oops.

No, it still does.

> but a certain amount of backlash was to be expected.

Ultimately by lower class people who tend to be racist, though. Mostly it's just that they don't like seeing new languages and foods popup.

> in a democracy I would think that arguing that "the uneducated masses" are wrong is a quick path to irrelevancy.

Maybe, but the uneducated masses shouldn't be making these decisions, which is why democracy is the real problem here.

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spwa43mo ago

> Maybe, but the uneducated masses shouldn't be making these decisions, which is why democracy is the real problem here.

Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really?

... which suggests that if you can't lift up and convince "lower class" people, racist or otherwise, you should just get out of the way. Because if that's the case the only outcomes are bad, and worse.

JCattheATMOP3mo ago

> Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really?

I think a superior system to the one we have now is one where progressive values are embedded in from the start. Objectively, they are superior positions that can be backed up by data.

> which suggests that if you can't lift up and convince "lower class" people, racist or otherwise, you should just get out of the way

These people routinely vote against their own interests. They shouldn't have a say.

spwa43mo ago

If you think so then just vote in your favorite "data-driven" dictator. I'm sure it will all end well.

JCattheATMOP3mo ago

There's no one to vote for proposing a system that I would approve of.

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spwa43mo ago

> Maybe, but the uneducated masses shouldn't be making these decisions, which is why democracy is the real problem here.

Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really?

JCattheATMOP3mo ago

> Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really?

I think a superior system to the one we have now is one where progressive values are embedded in from the start. Objectively, they are superior positions that can be backed up by data.

> which suggests that if you can't lift up and convince "lower class" people, racist or otherwise, you should just get out of the way

These people routinely vote against their own interests. They shouldn't have a say.

spwa43mo ago

If you think so then just vote in your favorite "data-driven" dictator. I'm sure it will all end well.

JCattheATMOP3mo ago

There's no one to vote for proposing a system that I would approve of.

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