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0 pointsashtonshears1mo ago0 comments

Do you work at Anthropic, or know people who do?

I genuinly curious why they are so holy to you, when to me I see just another tech company trying to make cash

Edit: Reading some of the linked articles, I can see how Anthropic CEO is refusing to allow their product for warfare (killing humans), which is probably a good thing that resonates with supporting them

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dannersy1mo ago

Let us not pretend that they won't be used for war eventually. If they cave immediately under pressure, then this is an inevitably.

nradov1mo ago

How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need? I mean if we're going to have a military at all then we owe it to them to give them the best possible weapons systems that minimize friendly casualties. And let's not have any specious claims that LLMs are somehow special or uniquely dangerous: the US military has deployed operational fully autonomous weapons systems since the 1970s.

yunwal1mo ago

This is the US military we’re talking about so 95% of what they do is attacking people for oil. They don’t “need” more of anything, they’re funded to the tune of a trillion dollars a year, almost as much as every other military in the world combined. What holy mission do you think they’re going to carry out with the assistance of LLMs?

nradov1mo ago

That's a total non sequitur. If you think the military is being tasked with the wrong missions, or too many missions, then take that up with the civilian political leadership. But it's not a valid reason to deny the warfighters the best possible weapons systems.

Personally I favor a less interventionist foreign policy. But that change can only come about through the political process, not by unaccountable corporate employees making arbitrary decisions about how certain products can be used.

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chris_wot1mo ago

"How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need?"

Perhaps you should consider that this is a loaded question. I don't think HN needs this sort of Argumentum ad Passiones.

nozzlegear1mo ago

Why are you asking this question? You know what the answer is, you've just arbitrarily decided that it's specious in an attempt to frame rebuttals as unreasonable.

nradov1mo ago

I'm open to reasonable rebuttals but all the rebuttals that I've seen so far are simply uninformed.

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dannersy1mo ago

Let us not pretend that they won't be used for war eventually. If they cave immediately under pressure, then this is an inevitably.

nradov1mo ago

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chris_wot1mo ago

"How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need?"

Perhaps you should consider that this is a loaded question. I don't think HN needs this sort of Argumentum ad Passiones.

nozzlegear1mo ago

Why are you asking this question? You know what the answer is, you've just arbitrarily decided that it's specious in an attempt to frame rebuttals as unreasonable.

nradov1mo ago

I'm open to reasonable rebuttals but all the rebuttals that I've seen so far are simply uninformed.

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