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0 pointsdakolli29d ago0 comments

Funny idea, but this proves my point that these tools are actually just slot machines.. Except the house in this case takes the money you give them lights it on fire.

Notice how people also have weird superstitious habits when using LLM tools, "You gotta write the prompt this way, say this first" Without having any way to prove it works. Its very similar to the behavior of gamblers. "push the buttons in this order for best outcome"

Also notice how llm tools allow you to multiply the output X2-X3-X4 to compare the ouputs, this is literally UX straight outta a casino.

Many of the users also exhibit excited, almost manic like states.. Addicted to the dopamine the output from their prompt produces...

This is going to be a weird trend to look back on, the hype is on par with the same gambling trends found in crypto/NFTS.

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frgturpwd29d ago

I think this is more of a statement of human behavior under uncertainty and non-determinism rather than the tools themselves. Perhaps the ease of use brings it closer to the funny analogy you made but I think you will find this in any system where users interact with a partially opaque mechanism that produces different quality outcomes contingent on their input...

ambicapter29d ago

Sorry, this can't be anything but an intentionally obfuscating comment that I need to call out.

> more of a statement of human behavior under uncertainty and non-determinism rather than the tools themselves.

This is basically saying "It's not gambling, it's just the psychological underpinnings that form the foundation of all gambling enterprises". Who cares to split this difference other than casino owners?

frgturpwd24d ago

I was not actually defending LLM tools or casinos. Not every system with variable outcomes and ritualized user behavior is meaningfully equivalent to wagering money against probabilistic loss (slots). If the same reasoning were applied to video games or running scientific experiments of any kind, we'd end up labeling most uncertainty-laden interaction as gambling. I just did not find it particular enough.

cluckindan29d ago

>uncertainty and non-determinism

When you play slots in a casino, the certain things are that the casino determines the house edge, and the house always wins.

frumiousirc29d ago

> these tools are actually just slot machines

Slot machines that are biased toward producing jackpots.

And "jackpots" are a metaphor for "training distribution".

withinboredom29d ago

Yeah. You always know you are doing something pretty unique when the LLM can conceptualize it (produce the right English output) but not put it into code.

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