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0 pointsalex_low2mo ago0 comments

I'm surprised this has not been mentioned, for context:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

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tgv2mo ago

I think that's because nobody believes for one second that these strikes are a retaliation for that.

philk102mo ago

Epstein files and plummeting poll numbers are more likely reasons

yoyohello132mo ago

My guess is Hegseth is cumming in his pants at the idea of starting the 10th Crusade.

eunos2mo ago

Then Hegseth and Caine must be prepared to face the next Taiwan strait crisis with depleted munitions.

yoavm2mo ago

Not surprising - people don't count deaths in the Middle East if they're caused by fellow Middle Easterns, except Israel. Living in Europe I've never heard about a protest against Saddam (250,000 - 1,000,000 dead), Khamenei (30,000 in a week?), Assad (> 300,000 civilians) etc. This is business as usual. It's only news if someone else does it.

Rover2222mo ago

this is so true

izietto2mo ago

Maybe because nobody believes in the "exporting democracy" excuse anymore

JumpCrisscross2mo ago

> nobody believes in the "exporting democracy" excuse

Has this been argued?

danny_codes2mo ago

That’s the Bush doctrine! A belief that you can invade a country, remove the power center, and democracy will spring forth. You don’t even need to speak the local language, read any books about the country you’re attacking, or talk to any locals! Just go for it and democracy will magically spring into existence.

134152mo ago

Not directly but OP seemed to intuit some sort of moral justification for this war of aggression ("humanitarian reasons"), and few people believe that to be a key motivating factor for the White House.

reliabilityguy2mo ago

> Not directly but OP seemed to intuit some sort of moral justification for this war of aggression

There is an absolute moral justification for this war. Saying that US is the aggressor here is an absolute revisionism of history. Let us not pretend that Islamic Republic minded its own business since its inception, and suddenly the US and Israel decided to wage war on it.

One example of IR's aggression is Beirut bombing in 1983 sponsored and planned by IR.

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jjfoooo42mo ago

What else does "regime change" as a goal refer to?

throwaw122mo ago

Are you saying those protested actually got funded by Israel and because Iran killed them, now Israel is retaliating?

Now I really wonder if those protests were indeed fueled and funded by Israel, because we have seen videos of mosques being burned down by protestors, which is strange for Shia Muslim country, even if they don't like their government

yoavm2mo ago

"A 2020 Online Survey by Gamaan found that 8.8% Iranians identifying as Atheist and a large fraction (22.2%) identifying as not following an organized religion and only 40% self identified as Muslims."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Iran

jraby32mo ago

Compare how much Israel was in the news for targeting militants these past two years in Gaza.

How biased is the press? Iran slaughters 36k people in a week and... crickets. Israel refuses to let its hostages die while Hamas hides out in hospitals and schools and the world is against Israel not Iran.

kwar132mo ago

If you think Trump did that because he cares about Democracy I have some news for you regarding the Jan 6 rioters...

tim3332mo ago

Yeah, the:

>Trump urges Iranians to keep protesting, saying 'help is on its way'

stuff if pretty relevant.

eleventyseven2mo ago

Because HNers are not so gullible to swallow and regurgitate this pretext. The Trump administration doesn't care about the people of Iran, any more than Bush cared about the Iraqi Kurds or Afghan women. Just a pretext for geopolitics.

croes2mo ago

Rookie numbers. Wait until they got liberated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

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tgv2mo ago

I think that's because nobody believes for one second that these strikes are a retaliation for that.

philk102mo ago

Epstein files and plummeting poll numbers are more likely reasons

yoyohello132mo ago

My guess is Hegseth is cumming in his pants at the idea of starting the 10th Crusade.

eunos2mo ago

Then Hegseth and Caine must be prepared to face the next Taiwan strait crisis with depleted munitions.

yoavm2mo ago

Rover2222mo ago

this is so true

izietto2mo ago

Maybe because nobody believes in the "exporting democracy" excuse anymore

JumpCrisscross2mo ago

> nobody believes in the "exporting democracy" excuse

Has this been argued?

danny_codes2mo ago

134152mo ago

reliabilityguy2mo ago

> Not directly but OP seemed to intuit some sort of moral justification for this war of aggression

One example of IR's aggression is Beirut bombing in 1983 sponsored and planned by IR.

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jjfoooo42mo ago

What else does "regime change" as a goal refer to?

throwaw122mo ago

Are you saying those protested actually got funded by Israel and because Iran killed them, now Israel is retaliating?

yoavm2mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Iran

jraby32mo ago

Compare how much Israel was in the news for targeting militants these past two years in Gaza.

kwar132mo ago

If you think Trump did that because he cares about Democracy I have some news for you regarding the Jan 6 rioters...

tim3332mo ago

Yeah, the:

>Trump urges Iranians to keep protesting, saying 'help is on its way'

stuff if pretty relevant.

eleventyseven2mo ago

croes2mo ago

Rookie numbers. Wait until they got liberated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

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