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0 pointscogman1027d ago0 comments

Maybe after the civil war, certainly not during it. If I had to pick where to live, I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone. (This isn't me saying I want to live in NK, I don't).

But I'd also point out that a lot of what makes it really suck to live in the worst places in the world isn't often the government but rather the international relationships. Turkey has a particularly brutal government, but it's Nato and EU ally status means that the civilians enjoy modern trade and travel.

The worst times to be in NK was the 90s when there was an ongoing famine and the US refused to lift sanctions thinking it'd spark a civil war that overthrew the regime. It didn't.

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walletdrainer26d ago

>I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

You can live a perfectly normal life in Kiev. It’s not exactly an active war zone, you see luxury cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars on every corner. You can buy bottles of Petrus in 24 hour supermarkets and eat decent food at countless fancy restaurants.

Goodwine in Kiev will also put US luxury grocers to shame. Ukraine might be at war, but the quality of life is hardly bad.

JumpCrisscross27d ago

> I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

To each their own. I wouldn't. In part because once you're in North Korea, you're not getting out. That isn't the case for Ukraine, Syria or any of the other war-torn countries.

etc-hosts27d ago

If you are a male between the ages of 17 and 55, you are not getting out of Ukraine right now.

cogman10OP27d ago

It'd depend on my status. There are a lot of people who can't just get out of Ukraine or Syria. The average citizen in Syria had no means to just flee. I'd assume in my above scenario that I'm one of the masses that can't escape.

NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class. A decent number of tourists, including US citizens, go on tours of NK.

JumpCrisscross27d ago

> NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class

I didn't know this. Source? I thought Pyongyang controls its elites' movement even more strictly than its commoners'.

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0 pointscogman1027d ago0 comments

The worst times to be in NK was the 90s when there was an ongoing famine and the US refused to lift sanctions thinking it'd spark a civil war that overthrew the regime. It didn't.

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walletdrainer26d ago

>I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

Goodwine in Kiev will also put US luxury grocers to shame. Ukraine might be at war, but the quality of life is hardly bad.

JumpCrisscross27d ago

> I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

To each their own. I wouldn't. In part because once you're in North Korea, you're not getting out. That isn't the case for Ukraine, Syria or any of the other war-torn countries.

etc-hosts27d ago

If you are a male between the ages of 17 and 55, you are not getting out of Ukraine right now.

cogman10OP27d ago

NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class. A decent number of tourists, including US citizens, go on tours of NK.

JumpCrisscross27d ago

> NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class

I didn't know this. Source? I thought Pyongyang controls its elites' movement even more strictly than its commoners'.

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