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0 pointsmft_22d ago0 comments

(Your question doesn't make sense, but) A quick search shows that sex with an animal is definitely illegal in the UK [0] whether it's a male or a female human involved.

[0] https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/69

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benj11122d ago

Yes. But a male animal getting an erection implies some kind of consent?

And if it doesn't? What about farms breeding livestock?

Society has decided that you can rape a pig for profit, but not for pleasure.

So is it really about consent? Or puritanism?

mft_OP22d ago

Physiologically, a male getting an erection implies stimulation, not consent.

However, more broadly I agree with you that laws protecting animals from harm can often lag behind what some might consider necessary. And despite laws protecting animals from "unnecessary suffering" [0] we still allow the slaughter of animals for food; presumably either because such slaughter is considered necessary, or because the suffering is considered reduced to an acceptably level.

[0] e.g. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/69

benj11122d ago

I think you're missing the point. I stick my penis in an animal. That is illegal. I stick something else in there to get it pregnant. Not illegal.

So this isn't about consent. And it's not about the laws lagging. It's about the law differing depending on why you're doing the thing to the animal.

I don't doubt that some vegans might treat animal breeding as rape but I don't think the general population does, or consider that element suffering in any way.

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benj11122d ago

Yes. But a male animal getting an erection implies some kind of consent?

And if it doesn't? What about farms breeding livestock?

Society has decided that you can rape a pig for profit, but not for pleasure.

So is it really about consent? Or puritanism?

mft_OP22d ago

Physiologically, a male getting an erection implies stimulation, not consent.

[0] e.g. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/69

benj11122d ago

I think you're missing the point. I stick my penis in an animal. That is illegal. I stick something else in there to get it pregnant. Not illegal.

So this isn't about consent. And it's not about the laws lagging. It's about the law differing depending on why you're doing the thing to the animal.

I don't doubt that some vegans might treat animal breeding as rape but I don't think the general population does, or consider that element suffering in any way.

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