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0 pointsr_lee11d ago0 comments

> vibe coded Claude code cli releases are a buggy mess too

this is what gets me.

are they out of money? are so desperate to penny pinch that they can't just do it properly?

what's going on in this industry?

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I get the value of dogfooding, but I feel that in this case, a solid trustworthy foundation is much more important than dogfooding.

macNchz11d ago

I’m a huge user of AI coding tools but I feel like there has been some kind of a zeitgeist shift in what is acceptable to release across the industry. Obviously it’s a time of incredibly rapid change and competition, but man there is some absolute garbage coming out of companies that I’d expect could do better without much effort. I find myself asking, like, did anyone even do 5 minutes of QA on this thing?? How has this major bug been around for so long?

“It’s kind of broken, maybe they will fix it at some point,” has become a common theme across products from all different players, from both a software defect and service reliability point of view.

r_leeOP11d ago

I mean it's like, really they don't even need agentic AI or whatever, they could literally just employ devs and it wouldn't make a difference

like, they'll drop $100 billion on compute, but when it comes to devs who make their products, all of a sudden they must desperately cut costs and hire as little as possible

to me it makes no sense from a business perspective. Same with Google, e.g. YouTube is utterly broken, slow and laggy, but I guess because you're forced to use it, it doesn't matter. But still, if you have these huge money stockpiles, why not deploy it to improve things? It wouldn't matter anyways, it's only upside

dkersten11d ago

I don’t think they’re even saving much on vibe coding it, given how many tokens they claim they’re using. I know the token cost to them is much, much lower than the token cost to us, but it still has a cost in terms of gpus running.

Plus it’s not something we can replicate since we don’t have access to infinite tokens, so it’s not even a good dogfooding case study.

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dkersten11d ago

I get the value of dogfooding, but I feel that in this case, a solid trustworthy foundation is much more important than dogfooding.

macNchz11d ago

r_leeOP11d ago

I mean it's like, really they don't even need agentic AI or whatever, they could literally just employ devs and it wouldn't make a difference

like, they'll drop $100 billion on compute, but when it comes to devs who make their products, all of a sudden they must desperately cut costs and hire as little as possible

dkersten11d ago

Plus it’s not something we can replicate since we don’t have access to infinite tokens, so it’s not even a good dogfooding case study.

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