Godel Number for Genesis 1

3 points7h3P146u311d ago2 comments

I computed with a python script the Godel Number for Genesis 1:1 (based on Gematria letter values) for string "בראשיתבראאלהיםאתהשמיםואתהארץ" (so first 28 primes to the power of each letter value - one letter per prime in ascending order of primes - multiplied together). The number is around 8.63 * 10^1571. I estimate the complete Torah GN would be ~ 10^162,000,000.

Number:

862532119018670994853706299484105125355684644091606301637311464066213285015917612647683372609962630971922757938460422497490303715584236183589815174223753668799187852058841234949640910706751931998086640998540377763898255965157345839578032575161238882178232627071018932090393720452385410421246299359267108737383504683304773444583585595397166762636335760718203268116607806422122460238359387886209128122071411582967846410847032333287804616798619618534623997073011581903075286954308086505751764127465988599227773336083575367291302505134990155091860273966038231092372220604227309239557068329692773614884678165703093882951225237219049884072591367583612996662184298072102754806138583465166343491891914218820884863137432368191913505226696446776228195140747186317331090398667854179971478767235965708916517894331964260945391192709721289401538497042518094772049376725892136852888295246727855947473328623572255482239873197543927364083185644584525064736404787257009093930575325299526375152109269786651223167394245457025414401077602205749972663874358119751651840852629056608373121271546637831569829973342625171431382950059449537800791337689356412432246870151309974417591680264941818924856531430609531872024124871430746745785104654639024906568180244334344198617172568131674824316152203792560579253836970171344829014971482748318133149753474674198689782281225431568210579085082037960870002450430213754301829943714777036898363992540719837243306643222479630456404284701307736642683922176659469556354342025512514670850190604229271082319358771041193899866376903053044875660796608053621127545485925430227684223717707143778418689770243642452946645417031915909619041161487548302428048179471613261834267257125242104925169981058292567895445637817689256996909426431692841279538639031605230708813671354255126229769558470282527251269536589392236264971766761088163973756630297893077865947924785867410394740412285254239075204746189079389712315630534905573793839541718301953239164503314409852857253565001698058892186727533918883002735835397660312059153876170003707941794253082934778544986300292345386628532359673279846490330992656638055746900805821639052256600823490254070548895598625396775655666909280936373172143321485111786732496672794724225802325772085268477526505661486156101794209917903177794514174544297290746805540009703976564158760908201280713059612284177790839561443229400677667188082517554315493232856904118433094969391486551988640655131033391607975724270919357061114582890244667365139395191893959248824343704623296597586855822638051347286607496784479020845464324919098058832180898117371280262533368513803502671586383545265567057277027119408902977043678176348467422718089948447306584637362675374312141865264531851918834092767574868053703841423519231772117261364086258001877409046192158059112075939216253377769665708762493959377672717239307332229854474646831480749112291381952225327987808594814572119347807874825156395068264902294003780966929710237239100926452454413234864454695184249612773139494721658671324480240716392046364647626933693680745488891461982896474822388203782760266378659088577683237353642432930503094691016525186103147266419867252298638416129384987072328251918109746709474419283620325652769943558043754066758230024716146467684150333218007418790125500936062286238984837981152526969700812639555603183730863982840539122807850713409454772065879326682894770476626436563579251623141267525737837863664035359294396444400023523677933783816803723923444271766037931208473564191944927352221528208557413333101101784752768449177738772509826396740416020622385396978236513849886988591435296801057705639982149487941574035166303938858887066202

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FrankWilhoit11d ago

But does this show that the verse is unprovable? Does it show that Gematria is equipotent with Peano arithmetic, or less powerful? Does the estimate of the order of the Gödel number for all of Torah imply that the question is unapproachable? Didn't we already know that?

7h3P146u3OP11d ago

This was just "for fun" - it does not "prove" anything other than to show if you have number values for letters (as the Gematria does for Hebrew) any string of text can be numerically represented and encoded in a Godel Number - one could do the same thing for Moby Dick or an email, it doesn't matter. This is kind of a fun thing for learning purpose to show how large Godel numbers get, and how quickly. The idea of "storing a string of text in one number" is cool - yes it underpins Godel's Incompleteness theorems, etc., but is also just cool by itself I think.

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Godel Number for Genesis 1

3 points7h3P146u311d ago2 comments

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