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0 pointsAlupis4d ago0 comments

If this was said on a private, non-official channel there would be no issue. She's allowed to have that opinion, and even say it. But doing so on an official internal channel is where it crossed the line.

Again, what she did was akin to printing out the statement and stapling it to a bulletin board - or, mass emailing it to everyone in the company. It was an official internal channel everyone in the company can access...

Imagine one of your reports saying something like this about you during a team meeting, while you're standing there. Not acceptable workplace behavior... and that would be limited to just your team.

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wood_spirit4d ago

The company has an internal policy of “open company, no bullshit” and an internal channel for venting called literally “outrage”. I don’t see an “official internal” and “unofficial internal” distinction here.

miltonlost4d ago

I am not the CEO. I am not a leader of a company. Leaders should expect for their behavior, which has far far far more reaching effects than mine, to be criticized. CEOs shouldn't be little babies who can fire everyone but not take a little heat themselves.

AlupisOP4d ago

If you emailed something like this about a coworker to everyone in the company, it would also be inappropriate for the workplace. Just because it was the CEO doesn't make it acceptable.

happytoexplain4d ago

Not always, but it does make it more acceptable, in terms of tone. That's how the power dynamic works.

JKCalhoun4d ago

I don't know. "Punching up" should always be acceptable.

triceratops4d ago

> Just because it was the CEO doesn't make it acceptable

Actually, yes, yes it does. There are some things you can't say to any employee of any rank: racist or sexist harassment for example. And commenting on the performance of an employee that doesn't report to you is also generally a no-go. But legitimate, job-related criticism of the CEO, or any other senior management, is entirely acceptable. Why wouldn't it be?

miltonlost4d ago

Yes it is acceptable because it is the CEO. CEOs and lowly coworkers are not the same people and do not deserve the same level of interpersonal communication. CEOs shouldn't make evil decisions and then think they can not have mild criticism laid against them.

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0 pointsAlupis4d ago0 comments

Imagine one of your reports saying something like this about you during a team meeting, while you're standing there. Not acceptable workplace behavior... and that would be limited to just your team.

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wood_spirit4d ago

miltonlost4d ago

AlupisOP4d ago

If you emailed something like this about a coworker to everyone in the company, it would also be inappropriate for the workplace. Just because it was the CEO doesn't make it acceptable.

happytoexplain4d ago

Not always, but it does make it more acceptable, in terms of tone. That's how the power dynamic works.

JKCalhoun4d ago

I don't know. "Punching up" should always be acceptable.

triceratops4d ago

> Just because it was the CEO doesn't make it acceptable

miltonlost4d ago

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