>The remediations that are in place because a engineering/safety/red team did its job are commendable. However, that does not speak to the innate vulnerability of these models, which is what we're talking about.

I am talking about the innate vulnerability. The LLM model itself can be censored and controlled to do only certain behaviors. We have an actual degree of control here.

>If you use LLMs daily and extensively like I do, then you know these things lie constantly and effortlessly.

Yes and these lies over the last 2 or 3 years have gotten significantly less.

>These problems ARE inherent to LLMs. Prompt injection and hallucinations are problems that are NOT solvable at this time.

Again not true. This is not a binary solve or unsolved situation. There is progress in this area. You need to think in terms of a probability of a successful hallucination or prompt injection. There is huge progress in bringing down that probability. So much so that when you say they are NOT solvable it is patently false from both from a current perspective and even when projecting into the future.

>You're handing a toddler a loaded gun and belly laughing when it hits a target, but you're absolutely ignoring the underlying insanity of the situation. And I don't really know why.

Such an extreme example. It's more like giving a 12 year old a credit card and gun. It doesn't mean that 12 year old is going to shoot up a mall or off himself. The risk is there, but it's not guaranteed that the worst will happen.