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0 pointsMatl1mo ago0 comments

> The families of the thousands of Iranians slaughtered by the regime doubtless think that we are attacking Iran for a good reason

Regardless of the 'thousands of Iranians slaughtered by the regime' which is supposed to just be accepted as fact despite everyone citing some random number everytime, no they don't.

Because the logic of 'we'll liberate you from oppression by bombing you' does nothing but unites Iranians more than they ever were united before.

Or do you think the killing of schoolgirls by the US is welcomed by Iranians somehow?

Honestly, I am speechless.

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0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Why do you believe that the current Iranian regime prevents its people from accessing the internet?

It's because a lot of the people hate the regime and want it gone. You can see that in activist spaces like the /r/NewIran subreddit or on X from accounts like https://x.com/__Injaneb96 that yes, they do very much welcome US intervention.

Here's a video from a townhall in my parent's congressional district where some Iranian-Americans speak up on the war: https://old.reddit.com/r/NewIran/comments/1rbdxzb/democrat_c...

It's quite similar to Ukrainians complaining about Putin. "My country sucks, come save me" is always a trap, because if you attempt to come "save" them you just get called a warmonger.

andersonpico1mo ago

Oh no the great war crime of _getting called a warmonger_ for bombing children in schools and invading other countries...

Your grievances with how you perceive other people opinion of the US are irrelevant when confronted with the warmorgering reality of american foreign policy, no matter how offended you feel on behalf of your favorite military industrial complex.

0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Sure, and the Ukrainians (sponsored by Europeans) are killing Russian civilians in Belgorod:

https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/06/24/death-and-destru...

This is the warmongering reality of the EU. First Libya, now this. Don't get offended, I'm just speaking facts.

MatlOP1mo ago

You seem to think that there's some great agreement amongst Europeans about the foreign policies being pursued by European countries when there's not.

Yes, I think European foreign policy has in many cases resulted in the deaths of innocent people and our leaders are "warmongers" for following them.

See, it's not that hard. I am not upset, because I can objectively look at the facts and say, yeah, you have a point. I even upvoted you.

The fact remains that the US has done this on a much larger scale.

It's wrong in both cases.

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MatlOP1mo ago

> Why do you believe that the current Iranian regime prevents its people from accessing the internet?

In the middle of an unprovoked aggression, is it really that surprising that you might try to restrict channels your enemy might use? I don't think so.

0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Wouldn't enabling internet access allow Iranian citizens to speak against US strikes, if they are all against the strikes, as you believe?

>In the middle of an unprovoked aggression, is it really that surprising that you might try to restrict channels your enemy might use? I don't think so.

So wouldn't Ukraine also logically want to restrict internet access to its citizens in that case?

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0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Why do you believe that the current Iranian regime prevents its people from accessing the internet?

Here's a video from a townhall in my parent's congressional district where some Iranian-Americans speak up on the war: https://old.reddit.com/r/NewIran/comments/1rbdxzb/democrat_c...

It's quite similar to Ukrainians complaining about Putin. "My country sucks, come save me" is always a trap, because if you attempt to come "save" them you just get called a warmonger.

andersonpico1mo ago

Oh no the great war crime of _getting called a warmonger_ for bombing children in schools and invading other countries...

0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Sure, and the Ukrainians (sponsored by Europeans) are killing Russian civilians in Belgorod:

https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/06/24/death-and-destru...

This is the warmongering reality of the EU. First Libya, now this. Don't get offended, I'm just speaking facts.

MatlOP1mo ago

You seem to think that there's some great agreement amongst Europeans about the foreign policies being pursued by European countries when there's not.

Yes, I think European foreign policy has in many cases resulted in the deaths of innocent people and our leaders are "warmongers" for following them.

See, it's not that hard. I am not upset, because I can objectively look at the facts and say, yeah, you have a point. I even upvoted you.

The fact remains that the US has done this on a much larger scale.

It's wrong in both cases.

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MatlOP1mo ago

> Why do you believe that the current Iranian regime prevents its people from accessing the internet?

In the middle of an unprovoked aggression, is it really that surprising that you might try to restrict channels your enemy might use? I don't think so.

0xDEAFBEAD1mo ago

Wouldn't enabling internet access allow Iranian citizens to speak against US strikes, if they are all against the strikes, as you believe?

>In the middle of an unprovoked aggression, is it really that surprising that you might try to restrict channels your enemy might use? I don't think so.

So wouldn't Ukraine also logically want to restrict internet access to its citizens in that case?

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