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0 pointsjorvi1mo ago0 comments

No, battery life isn't on par.

The only way to get the battery life Framework advertised is on Windows' 'Ultra Efficiency' mode which cuts CPU performance by 25-50%, lowers brightness by 30% and deprioritizes everything in the background to such an extreme that responsiveness of those is measured in seconds.

It is not comparable at all to M-series or Snapdragon laptops happily chugging along at full capability and getting (compared to AMD / Intel) stellar battery life.

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bogzz1mo ago

They're talking about the new model announced, with a larger battery and ARM architecture. Not released yet, I don't think.

wolttam1mo ago

The new Framework Pros are still x86, but the newest Intel generation appears to provide a substantial boost to efficiency.

chaosharmonic1mo ago

Also, jumping on the LPCAMM train early creates an eventual path for ARM boards without soldered RAM.

rekoil29d ago

They have a new type of core on these they refer to as a "low-power efficiency core", which is probably what is enabling these "feats", but as one of the parents to this comment points out we're comparing Windows configured in "Ultra Efficiency" mode to Apple Silicon MacBooks at most configured in Low Power mode...

Anecdotally, comparing to recent (but still older than these) generations of Intel chips I can run my M2 Max MacBook Pro with 78% battery health for longer (without any special considerations) than colleagues running their Windows Intel laptops in Power Saver mode, while performing similar tasks.

dwedge1mo ago

The new model is Intel or amd unless I missed something. They said in the video the battery life was entirely from video playback, which can be run on efficiency mode

bogzz1mo ago

My apologies, I don't know where I got the ARM architecture part from. I really want one of those machines, but I guess if they can't approach MacBook battery life yet I'm stuck on MacOS for now.

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apatheticonion29d ago

It's hard to imagine it'll come close to the complete MacBook package and it'll likely be similarly priced.

- Screen

- Speakers

- The unbelievable trackpad

- Battery life

- GPU performance (Linux gaming on this would be amazing)

freedomben1mo ago

Correct, it's in pre order now. It is actually x86 though, not arm

srcreigh1mo ago

I’m pretty sure macOS safari doesn’t execute JavaScript on background windows/tabs.

When I play Bitburner, if I want to run it in the background, I have to run the game on Firefox or chrome. It’s a shame because safari actually gives best performance by quite a large margin.

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bogzz1mo ago

They're talking about the new model announced, with a larger battery and ARM architecture. Not released yet, I don't think.

wolttam1mo ago

The new Framework Pros are still x86, but the newest Intel generation appears to provide a substantial boost to efficiency.

chaosharmonic1mo ago

Also, jumping on the LPCAMM train early creates an eventual path for ARM boards without soldered RAM.

rekoil29d ago

dwedge1mo ago

The new model is Intel or amd unless I missed something. They said in the video the battery life was entirely from video playback, which can be run on efficiency mode

bogzz1mo ago

My apologies, I don't know where I got the ARM architecture part from. I really want one of those machines, but I guess if they can't approach MacBook battery life yet I'm stuck on MacOS for now.

2 more replies

apatheticonion29d ago

It's hard to imagine it'll come close to the complete MacBook package and it'll likely be similarly priced.

- Screen

- Speakers

- The unbelievable trackpad

- Battery life

- GPU performance (Linux gaming on this would be amazing)

freedomben1mo ago

Correct, it's in pre order now. It is actually x86 though, not arm

srcreigh1mo ago

I’m pretty sure macOS safari doesn’t execute JavaScript on background windows/tabs.

When I play Bitburner, if I want to run it in the background, I have to run the game on Firefox or chrome. It’s a shame because safari actually gives best performance by quite a large margin.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse