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0 pointsnickthegreek25d ago0 comments

What action did the user take that was against the TOS?

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You misunderstand. The user didn't take an action that was "against the TOS".

The TOS simply allows Anthropic to decline to fulfill a request at any time for any reason.

TOS are not laws. They often conflict with actual laws, and are then void. So you can't just say "It's in the TOS", you do have to look at actual laws and whether they may be violated (Because it is anticompetitive or whatever else)

margalabargala25d ago

Sorry, are you claiming that it's illegal (in the US, where Anthropic operates) for Anthropic to decline to operate on a repo that contains commits relating to OpenClaw?

Or just that in your opinion, it should be illegal?

Simply doing something anticompetitive is not inherently illegal, despite a lot of people thinking it is.

nickthegreekOP25d ago

It doesnt decline if you have API billing enabled, it straight up charges your request to API instead of Quota if setup (see $200 charge example below). This is happening if you have the words HERMES.md or OpenClaw apparently in the commit. In OP's example, it immediately depleted his session quota because of the words. That is not 'declining to operate'. Also, remember, it is the presence of the words. So if the commit was 'we dont do this, we arent openclaw', you are affected.

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...

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Marsymars25d ago

> (in the US, where Anthropic operates)

Locally, they also need to abide by the local laws and regulations of anywhere that they choose to sell their services.

bdangubic25d ago

if I had a penny for every time I read on HN that should either "is" or "should be" illegal when it both isn't and shouldn't be... I'd be a very rich man :)

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margalabargala25d ago

You misunderstand. The user didn't take an action that was "against the TOS".

The TOS simply allows Anthropic to decline to fulfill a request at any time for any reason.

schubidubiduba25d ago

margalabargala25d ago

Sorry, are you claiming that it's illegal (in the US, where Anthropic operates) for Anthropic to decline to operate on a repo that contains commits relating to OpenClaw?

Or just that in your opinion, it should be illegal?

Simply doing something anticompetitive is not inherently illegal, despite a lot of people thinking it is.

nickthegreekOP25d ago

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...

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Marsymars25d ago

> (in the US, where Anthropic operates)

Locally, they also need to abide by the local laws and regulations of anywhere that they choose to sell their services.

bdangubic25d ago

if I had a penny for every time I read on HN that should either "is" or "should be" illegal when it both isn't and shouldn't be... I'd be a very rich man :)

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse