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0 pointsrvz15d ago0 comments

Exactly. I have said this for a very long time and the EU (and many other governments) are not our friends and they are just as corrupt. Remember ChatControl?

Anytime anyone criticises the EU here, you will get downvoted even after trying to warn the EU defenders that they are not our friends at all.

I was asking for evidence about the EU digital ID wallets about what the "disinformation" was around it 3 years ago [0] and not a single link of it was given.

At this point, being an EU defender and supporting the "open web" are incompatible since you will be using your EU digital identity wallet [1] with your phone to login to your bank and the internet will push age verification with it, locking you out if you don't sign up.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36105002

[1] https://eudi.dev/latest/

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palata14d ago

> Remember ChatControl?

That thing that got refused multiple times already?

Because not all politicians think like you does not mean they are corrupt. Seems like enough politicians have voted against ChatControl until now.

I always wonder what people who say stuff like "politicians discussed this topic I hate and refused it, but the mere fact that they discussed means that they must all be corrupt" understand about politics. You know that it is about people with different opinions (representing people with different opinions) discussing stuff, right?

miohtama14d ago

The Commission got it through on the last round, though, so eventually it passed.

EmbarrassedHelp14d ago

Chat Control hasn't passed yet. But the Chat Control lobbyists are still lobbying for it behind the scenes, and are currently pushing for all phone calls in the EU to be covered.

Source:

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/861...

https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer

izacus14d ago

So what should be done about it? EU Commission issue a decree that it should never be spoken or debated again in public? Never proposed? Any other tyrannical idea?

Do you have a list of other things that shouldn't be brought in front of the elected parliament?

surgical_fire14d ago

Bullshit.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/eu-parliament-blocks-m...

palata14d ago

So ChatControl was accepted and is in the process of being implemented is what you say?

dijit14d ago

(ignorant) people proposing things does not mean corruption: the fact that these things are voted down and never pass is proof that the system works, not evidence of corruption.

Corruption would be if it passed despite it being unpopular, because some corporate or rich peoples interests desired it.

surgical_fire14d ago

> Exactly. I have said this for a very long time and the EU (and many other governments) are not our friends and they are just as corrupt. Remember ChatControl?

The EU parliament shot down ChatControl.

In fact, without the EU, most likely many member states would have ChatControl in some shape. National governments are the ones all in on this crap.

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palata14d ago

> Remember ChatControl?

That thing that got refused multiple times already?

Because not all politicians think like you does not mean they are corrupt. Seems like enough politicians have voted against ChatControl until now.

miohtama14d ago

The Commission got it through on the last round, though, so eventually it passed.

EmbarrassedHelp14d ago

Chat Control hasn't passed yet. But the Chat Control lobbyists are still lobbying for it behind the scenes, and are currently pushing for all phone calls in the EU to be covered.

Source:

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/861...

https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer

izacus14d ago

So what should be done about it? EU Commission issue a decree that it should never be spoken or debated again in public? Never proposed? Any other tyrannical idea?

Do you have a list of other things that shouldn't be brought in front of the elected parliament?

surgical_fire14d ago

Bullshit.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/eu-parliament-blocks-m...

palata14d ago

So ChatControl was accepted and is in the process of being implemented is what you say?

dijit14d ago

(ignorant) people proposing things does not mean corruption: the fact that these things are voted down and never pass is proof that the system works, not evidence of corruption.

Corruption would be if it passed despite it being unpopular, because some corporate or rich peoples interests desired it.

surgical_fire14d ago

> Exactly. I have said this for a very long time and the EU (and many other governments) are not our friends and they are just as corrupt. Remember ChatControl?

The EU parliament shot down ChatControl.

In fact, without the EU, most likely many member states would have ChatControl in some shape. National governments are the ones all in on this crap.

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