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0 pointstencentshill7d ago0 comments

More preventable deaths at the hands of trump, but there's no way of knowing for sure as chaos was the goal.

https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/issues/making-foreign-a...

>“When funding was cut, everything collapsed—there was no backup plan. Neither the hospitals nor the communities were prepared … we are asking people to pay, yet they can’t even afford their next meal." Alain Nkingi/Oxfam

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nomel7d ago

America is not to blame for them being unable to have a functional government for how long now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_the_Democratic_R...

merksoftworks7d ago

Nor are the victims of preventable disease to be blamed for being born into countries without functioning governments. I'm happy to pay $37 as a U.S. taxpayer if it saves the life of someone I'll never meet.

nomel7d ago

Note that around $11 of that goes to fund that corruption [1].

To save vastly more lives, and increase the standard of living in the whole country, it might be more efficient for the American government to interfere with the local elections/politics, to help purge the corruption. I believe that sometimes people do need to be saved, but trying to do that by putting bandaids on cuts made by the people actively beating them definitely isn't the way to do that.

[1] https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/investigation/2020/06/12/...

dbvn7d ago

you don't get to speak for all taxpayers. You can donate your $37

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baxtr7d ago

This is one of the unfortunate topics where calculating the costs of providing something is very straightforward, but the benefits (apart from being a decent human being) are near impossible to quantify without making wild guesses about causality.

You have to believe that somewhere down the line, you or your children will benefit from a world with fewer deadly pathogens.

JumpCrisscross7d ago

There are two issues: humanitarian aid and infectious-disease surveillance. The former is debatable. The latter, which has left us blinded to the facts on the ground, was pure DOGE stupidity.

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nomel7d ago

America is not to blame for them being unable to have a functional government for how long now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_the_Democratic_R...

merksoftworks7d ago

nomel7d ago

Note that around $11 of that goes to fund that corruption [1].

[1] https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/investigation/2020/06/12/...

dbvn7d ago

you don't get to speak for all taxpayers. You can donate your $37

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baxtr7d ago

You have to believe that somewhere down the line, you or your children will benefit from a world with fewer deadly pathogens.

JumpCrisscross7d ago

There are two issues: humanitarian aid and infectious-disease surveillance. The former is debatable. The latter, which has left us blinded to the facts on the ground, was pure DOGE stupidity.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse