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0 pointslayer86d ago0 comments

90's C++ already had templates, so “Java-like” is a more succinct descriptor, it doesn’t imply the direction of historical ancestry.

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pjmlp6d ago

Yes, and?

First of all they were extremely buggy back then, as anyone that actually used Stepanov's original implementation, from HP with docs hosted at SGI, will remember.

Secondly, Turbo Vision, OWL, VCL, MacApp, PowerPlant, Tools.h++, RogueWave Collection Classes, MFC, wxWidgets, Gtkmm, Qt, PÖET, COM/OLE/ActiveX, CORBA, Copland, BeOS predate Java, not the other way around.

layer8OP6d ago

You were criticizing the use of “Java-like”. IMO it gets the point across much better here than “90's C++”. It has nothing to do with what predates what.

pjmlp6d ago

Yes, because it is completely wrong.

It isn't writing C++ as Java, it is writing C++ as it was common between 1990 and 2011, before C++11 and other programming techniques took over in the C++ world, highly influenced by Andrei Alexandrescu's book "Modern C++ Design", published in 2001.

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pjmlp6d ago

Yes, and?

First of all they were extremely buggy back then, as anyone that actually used Stepanov's original implementation, from HP with docs hosted at SGI, will remember.

layer8OP6d ago

You were criticizing the use of “Java-like”. IMO it gets the point across much better here than “90's C++”. It has nothing to do with what predates what.

pjmlp6d ago

Yes, because it is completely wrong.

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