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0 pointsangry_octet1d ago0 comments

It's a very immigrant thing to be susceptible to the strongman political manipulations of the country they left, to believe that emulation and imitation can bring luck/success. America is very much defined by immigrant dreaming.

Which is why it is nonsense to say banning immigration is anything other than anti-American.

The idea that it would be a crackdown on illegal immigration was an essentially greedy belief that legal immigrants, especially Hispanic, would be elevated in status. Of course nothing could be further from the truth. Their skin color, their language and their community all mark them as targets for harassment.

It will be very hard for the machismo cultures to accept that they were deceived so they'll vote for Trump again.

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bluecheese4521d ago

Do we really want a bunch of immigrants that are susceptible to strongman political manipulations?

angry_octetOP1d ago

Unfortunately there is less incentive for talented and qualified people from prosperous democracies to more to the US. There is significant drama in obtaining a work visa (high sponsor administrative burden), you are tied to an employer, it is difficult for your spouse to also get a visa, etc.

So the source of high skill immigrants is countries with dictators and economic dysfunction. That used to include places like Poland, Czech Republic, Italy, etc. The first generation brings new ideas and cultural flavour, the second generation is completely American. As long as you don't have religious schools and ethnic charter schools getting state funds, integration is systematic and inevitable.

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bluecheese4521d ago

Do we really want a bunch of immigrants that are susceptible to strongman political manipulations?

angry_octetOP1d ago

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