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0 pointsrdtsc1d ago0 comments

> Bricks & Minifigs CEO Ammon McNeff is a graduate of Brigham Young University. Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best are, by public record and documented account, members of the LDS community. When Reckless Ben's team, following the pattern of obstruction by local law enforcement, looked into the individual officers involved in these incidents, they found that multiple officers were also BYU alumni.

I thought “it has to be some kind of corruption here”. And yup it’s the mormon mafia apparently

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conartist623h ago

Honestly that pattern of actions by law enforcement was the most disturbing thing. There was a moment where they knew this person was present at a private property to serve a warrant in a legitimate lawsuit. Clearly the right and moral action for the police at that moment was to help serve the papers AND then escort the litigant from the property. They chose to behave more like mobsters than defenders of the public trust, like they were taking over responsibility from the courts

Voultapher4h ago

Sadly this is pretty on brand for police everywhere, but it's particularly egregious in "the land of the free".

If you want a sobering perspective on government power and its connection to wealth look into the history of labor movement.

Or this senate report about the CIA's detention and interogation program [0]. The section "Findings and Conclusions" is some of the most damning stuff I've ever read. Essentially they lied about the scope and brutality of the torturing, lied about its success - there was none or even negative effectiveness and every case they used as an example was a success because of information collected through other means - and actively sabotaged all attempts at oversight.

[0] https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/...

superxpro125h ago

Thats because the cops were on the mormon in-group.

sleepybrett22h ago

when people say that the police are there to enforce laws to protect capital, this is what they mean.

rithdmc10h ago

This is the main reason I read comment threads on law enforcement stuff on HN. There's a bunch of people trying to square their opinion of policing ("protect and serve") with the reality of policing ("protect and serve the wealth").

6319h ago

My understanding is that 50% of people in the state of Utah are mormon. I'm not saying there wasn't corruption, but it could very well be pure chance with those odds.

rdtscOP18h ago

If cops are pulling over another person from Utah probably not a big deal but when dealing with an outsider from out of state the situation is different.

helterskelter16h ago

I can personally attest to this, along with many of my friends and family.

I've driven hundreds of extra miles per trip going around that damned state.

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jasonfarnon22h ago

Do you know all these involved parties aren't mormons in some mormon area/mormon company? Eg the old guy, the franchisee?

rdtscOP6h ago

The Salem, OR ex store owner and/or the owner of the LEGO set or the youtube who got involved? I'd be fairly sure they are not. Had the store itself been in Utah that would have been a 50/50 maybe.

paulddraper18h ago

> multiple officers were also BYU alumni

American Fork, UT is literally 10 miles from Brigham Young University, and BYU represents 1/4th of the state's bachelors degrees.

It's a bit like saying police officers in Italy are Catholic. I'd be more surprised if they weren't tbh.

(Disclaimer: I live near that area and also graduated from BYU.)

rendall16h ago

Yeah, as a non-Mormon, I agree. I think the Mormon connection is a paranoid distraction. The behavior of the police can be explained by the same kind of corrupt-small-town-police-defending-locals-from-outsiders behavior that happens across the country.

thaumasiotes12h ago

> The behavior of the police can be explained by the same kind of corrupt-small-town-police-defending-locals-from-outsiders behavior that happens across the country.

Mormons aren't implicated, but I fail to see how this can explain the behavior of the Oregon police.

_DeadFred_5h ago

I think it's the very odd police behavior that's triggered people trying to understand WTF is going on there.

It would be smart for the Mormon church to get ahead of this because blowback/reputational damage is hitting them. In the least Mormon Police and Mormon business executives appear to be behaving in ways you would not expect from truly religious/moral people.

gosub10014h ago

Stereotyping and bigotry are accepted if done against Christians.

mrguyorama3h ago

Mormons should not be considered christian any more than Christians should be considered Jewish.

You don't get to start an insane cult and say you are christian just because you also have a character named "jesus".

Their dogma is not at all christian. A lot of it is pretty extreme blasphemy.

Jeffbeans9h ago

Ki Mcallister was also BYU

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