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0 pointsmixmastamyk6h ago0 comments

Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it.

I prefer FW for freedom reasons, that’s worth a few hundred as well as the ram. Would also wait for the new intel chipset that is more efficient however.

Finally I think the FW 12 is weirdly positioned, as the 13 is already thin and light. For a tablet, I recommend the Star Labs Starlite instead. Both in same package? Clunky.

Guess I’d recommend a used FW 13 and Starlite instead. That’s what I have now and no real reason to upgrade, and freedom to tinker is off the charts, perfect for a student.

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Mashimo6h ago

> Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it.

Just last weekend I bought 8gb ram thinkpad t14 for an elderly relative. 240 EUR.

It replaces his thinkpad x220 where the fan and ssd slowly dies.

I doubt it becomes an issue, and if it does then I can upgrade it later.

mixmastamykOP5h ago

You can do it once and spend an extra hundred dollars or do it twice, including occasional restrictions to the user. Poor tradeoff imho.

This is a young person with a long life ahead, we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

NicuCalcea1h ago

Someone has to buy that (presumably second-hand) laptop to prevent it from becoming e-waste. 8GB can be plenty for a student, most don't need much beyond a browser and PowerPoint. Many of my university colleagues were using new $5,000+ MacBook Pros exclusively for Google Docs, that seems more wasteful to me.

Mashimo4h ago

> we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

Indeed. That makes two of us.

slopinthebag6h ago

MacBooks don't need as much ram - I have an m1 air with 8gb of ram and it's perfectly serviceable, I can even run IntelliJ on it...

cromka5h ago

I never run out of memory on macoOS on my M1 Air 16GB. Now that I use Asahi on it, I had plenty of OoM crashes.

macOS is really good at memory management, including the compression and offloading to the fast SSD.

mixmastamykOP5h ago

You have a buggy program. Zswap has been available for quite a while.

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mixmastamykOP5h ago

Compared to what? Not really true, and hard on the swap drive. Penny-wise meet pound.

slopinthebag5h ago

Well it's still kicking just fine years later, shrug

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Mashimo6h ago

> Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it.

Just last weekend I bought 8gb ram thinkpad t14 for an elderly relative. 240 EUR.

It replaces his thinkpad x220 where the fan and ssd slowly dies.

I doubt it becomes an issue, and if it does then I can upgrade it later.

mixmastamykOP5h ago

You can do it once and spend an extra hundred dollars or do it twice, including occasional restrictions to the user. Poor tradeoff imho.

This is a young person with a long life ahead, we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

NicuCalcea1h ago

Mashimo4h ago

> we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

Indeed. That makes two of us.

slopinthebag6h ago

MacBooks don't need as much ram - I have an m1 air with 8gb of ram and it's perfectly serviceable, I can even run IntelliJ on it...

cromka5h ago

I never run out of memory on macoOS on my M1 Air 16GB. Now that I use Asahi on it, I had plenty of OoM crashes.

macOS is really good at memory management, including the compression and offloading to the fast SSD.

mixmastamykOP5h ago

You have a buggy program. Zswap has been available for quite a while.

2 more replies

mixmastamykOP5h ago

Compared to what? Not really true, and hard on the swap drive. Penny-wise meet pound.

slopinthebag5h ago

Well it's still kicking just fine years later, shrug

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