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0 pointsantirez3h ago0 comments

I really want Europe to be part of the AI development and research. And I strongly cheered for Mistral. But they are accumulating too much technological delay. This needs to be fixed, otherwise it will turn into yet another proof we are not able to run large tech with good results. Basically any Chinese lab is doing much better. It's not Mistral that created I don't want to say DeepSeek, but MiMo 2.5, Minimax 2.7, and so forth. There are only weaker and/or larger and slower (no MoE) models. Not good.

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b65e8bee43c2ed03h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence_Act#Pe...

Europe shot itself in the dick with this hastily implemented at the height of mass hysteria bullshit and now no sane company will build anything there. an AI startup in the US or China can be a boy and his computer. in Europe, the boy needs a dozen lawyers.

Mistral's sinking into irrelevancy despite the head start they had, the very promising early models they released, and the funding they receive, might very well be the consequence of trying to comply with all that crap.

antirezOP1h ago

Possibly yes but let me remember you that France, Italy Germany were against the AI act, so here something very odd is happening, that the EU funding nations are getting marginalized by the countries they welcomed on key topics for our future, and I believe corruption could be a big part of what is happening, both internal to those three countries and at an even more alarming rate in other countries.

gregorygocnew20m ago

EU big nations getting marginalized: haha. The only reason there’s no US-like tariff on Chinese cars is because Germany was too scared it would lose its access to Chinese market.

neonstatic34m ago

> the EU funding nations are getting marginalized by the countries they welcomed

Thank you for reminding us that all animals are equal, but some are more equal

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darkamaulnew22m ago

Well , there isn’t also the opposite take from TechCrunch where they say: Why Paris may be the most important AI city outside Silicon Valley. [0]

While the EU loves its regulation, I still feel it’s too early to write it down in the AI race. It will not replace Anthropic or OpenAI any time soon, but even Google and Meta fail to do that.

If AI continue to grow and expand, there is enough space for many more unicorns.

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/28/why-paris-may-be-the-most-...

djvdq3h ago

It's yet another time when EU is killing our own possibilities to build real competition to US or Chinese tech.

And yet another time they will be thinking aloud in few year "what happened that we are fully dependent on USA?"

gspr2h ago

So you're saying AI models should be allowed to freely "manipulate human behavior"?

cm20121h ago

That is almost a meaningless sentence. Cats and traffic lights both manipulate human behavior.

xienze2h ago

The problem is that statement is a bit too open to interpretation. Ever had Claude piss you off by being stupid and talking in circles? Sounds like manipulation of human behavior!

GaProgMan1h ago

Compared to the UK Government which recently announced 10 million GBP for AI research, which will likely be scooped up by consultants. I think Europe is doing fine considering.

antirezOP1h ago

The first step would be indeed to join forces with UK, in order to don't be two entities, which is very unnatural to me.

gregorygocnew18m ago

No, we don’t need US’s Trojan horse in the EU

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b65e8bee43c2ed03h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence_Act#Pe...

antirezOP1h ago

gregorygocnew20m ago

EU big nations getting marginalized: haha. The only reason there’s no US-like tariff on Chinese cars is because Germany was too scared it would lose its access to Chinese market.

neonstatic34m ago

> the EU funding nations are getting marginalized by the countries they welcomed

Thank you for reminding us that all animals are equal, but some are more equal

1 more reply

darkamaulnew22m ago

Well , there isn’t also the opposite take from TechCrunch where they say: Why Paris may be the most important AI city outside Silicon Valley. [0]

While the EU loves its regulation, I still feel it’s too early to write it down in the AI race. It will not replace Anthropic or OpenAI any time soon, but even Google and Meta fail to do that.

If AI continue to grow and expand, there is enough space for many more unicorns.

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/28/why-paris-may-be-the-most-...

djvdq3h ago

It's yet another time when EU is killing our own possibilities to build real competition to US or Chinese tech.

And yet another time they will be thinking aloud in few year "what happened that we are fully dependent on USA?"

gspr2h ago

So you're saying AI models should be allowed to freely "manipulate human behavior"?

cm20121h ago

That is almost a meaningless sentence. Cats and traffic lights both manipulate human behavior.

xienze2h ago

The problem is that statement is a bit too open to interpretation. Ever had Claude piss you off by being stupid and talking in circles? Sounds like manipulation of human behavior!

GaProgMan1h ago

Compared to the UK Government which recently announced 10 million GBP for AI research, which will likely be scooped up by consultants. I think Europe is doing fine considering.

antirezOP1h ago

The first step would be indeed to join forces with UK, in order to don't be two entities, which is very unnatural to me.

gregorygocnew18m ago

No, we don’t need US’s Trojan horse in the EU

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse