Things Developers Should Do For Web Accessibility (opens in new tab)

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4lun13y ago

"Use alt tags where appropriate"

When you don't have need of an alt attribute, add one but keep it empty. In the absence of an alt attribute some screen readers will read out the path of the image instead. Setting it to empty allows you to remove this, almost always, unnecessary noise.

protonfish13y ago

The mention of Fangs alone made this article valuable to me. Accessibility has had lots of lip service for years but it is essentially impossible to do any legitimate work optimizing for screen readers if you don't have access to them (being prohibitively expensive.) It's like writing for a browser you never get to test in. If anyone was serious about accessibility they should get simply get screen readers in the hands of the people building web sites.

lesterbuck13y ago

NVDA is a free and open source screen reader:

http://www.nvda-project.org/

guycook13y ago

Number 1 (and throughout the article) isn't right, the input should go inside the label.

See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/input Permitted content: None, this is a void element.

And https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/label for an example of doing it correctly

bphogan13y ago

It's completely legitimate to have an input tag outside of a label. Even the link you provided states:

The HTML <label> Element represents a caption for an item in a user interface. It can be associated with a control either by using the for attribute, or by placing the control element inside the label element.

As long as you use the for attribute, it's fine.

guycook13y ago

Yes, quite right. I probably wasn't clear enough there, but I was referring to this from the article:

  <input type="text" required><label>Social Security Number</label></input>

Should be marked up as

  <label>Social Security Number<input type="text" required /></label>

if you want to omit the 'for' attribute.

Doing it the wrong way around will still render as you expect, but defeats the purpose as you won't get the click-to-activate behaviour.

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yuchi13y ago

Number 2 is simply misleading. It doesn't take in consideration HTML 5 Document Outline speification. It's not enough anymore to simply use h1-6 accordingly. You must take the whole document landing marks sructure in account (`article`, `section` etcetera.)

Number 8 is not completely correct anymore. Javascript was recently included in the accessible tecnologies. Screen readers nowadays do own a DOM and a full rendering stack. ARIA, in fact, dictates a lot of interesting accessibility states and tools. That said, I do not push forward the use of javascript for structural functionalities, the rule that states that "Javascript is an enhancement" still works and will always work, but excluding enhancements for accessibility is naïve as far as the naïvete of the implementation.

gilrain13y ago

Not really misleading: most screen readers aren't yet using the HTML5 Document Outline algorithm, so for accessibility you still have to rely on proper h1-6.

Ideally, you'd use them in combination for future proofing. It takes a little work, but you can arrive at the same general outline from both algorithms, since the new one ignores the ordinality of the h tag.

steveax13y ago

Screen readers will use whatever document outline that the browser renders, no?

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stevejalim13y ago

0) Make sure all of your HTML is valid.

zalew13y ago

please. build for people, not validators. it's good to check for mistakes, but validators are far from a stamp of approval for anything. know what you're doing instead of seeking 'validated' crap.

saurik13y ago

People generally don't read HTML... machines do; the further levels of validation you can obtain (and certainly to the extent to which the code is somewhat valid at all, such as making certain to have tags that aren't misusing quotation marks or brackets or entities), the more likely your code is to be understood in the same way by random implementations of HTML parsing that may be used in the field.

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jonascopenhagen13y ago

Here's the thing: It's not uncommon to come across weird bugs/rendering errors on web pages that were caused by incorrect HTML (where the developer writes </a> where he should have written </p> and similar issues). Pages with those kind of errors might render fine in Browser X and yet have render errors in Browser Y. That's why you validate - to find those kind of bugs.

johnbellone13y ago

Unfortunately on the topic of accessibility you're likely going to need to design for people, but build your site to validate. I don't have much experience using screen readers, but from what I can tell they're going to need at minimum well build HTML.

stevejalim13y ago

Well, yes (build for people) and no (stuff should be technically correct, as well).

For instance, the WGAC 2.0 guidelines require that HTML be valid, and if a client wants WGAC 2.0 compliance (even A level, not AA), the site's gotta validate [1].

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/ensure-compat-pars...

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bphogan13y ago

Valid HTML makes pages render better which helps out screen readers in certain cases. I've seen this in action too.

jakub_g13y ago

Regarding JavaScript: some JS-heavy apps can be made accessible easier than it looks at the first sight. One just needs to use <input> and <button> or <a> for binding 'onclick' events, instead of <div>s, <span>s etc. [1] and perhaps add some additional code to handle quirks in some browsers.

[1] [shameless self-promotion] http://jakub-g.github.com/accessibility/onclick/ - comprehensive cross-browser study of 'onclick' handling from JavaScript

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4lun13y ago

"Use alt tags where appropriate"

protonfish13y ago

lesterbuck13y ago

NVDA is a free and open source screen reader:

http://www.nvda-project.org/

guycook13y ago

Number 1 (and throughout the article) isn't right, the input should go inside the label.

See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/input Permitted content: None, this is a void element.

And https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/label for an example of doing it correctly

bphogan13y ago

It's completely legitimate to have an input tag outside of a label. Even the link you provided states:

As long as you use the for attribute, it's fine.

guycook13y ago

Yes, quite right. I probably wasn't clear enough there, but I was referring to this from the article:

  <input type="text" required><label>Social Security Number</label></input>

Should be marked up as

  <label>Social Security Number<input type="text" required /></label>

if you want to omit the 'for' attribute.

Doing it the wrong way around will still render as you expect, but defeats the purpose as you won't get the click-to-activate behaviour.

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yuchi13y ago

gilrain13y ago

Not really misleading: most screen readers aren't yet using the HTML5 Document Outline algorithm, so for accessibility you still have to rely on proper h1-6.

steveax13y ago

Screen readers will use whatever document outline that the browser renders, no?

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stevejalim13y ago

0) Make sure all of your HTML is valid.

zalew13y ago

please. build for people, not validators. it's good to check for mistakes, but validators are far from a stamp of approval for anything. know what you're doing instead of seeking 'validated' crap.

saurik13y ago

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jonascopenhagen13y ago

johnbellone13y ago

stevejalim13y ago

Well, yes (build for people) and no (stuff should be technically correct, as well).

For instance, the WGAC 2.0 guidelines require that HTML be valid, and if a client wants WGAC 2.0 compliance (even A level, not AA), the site's gotta validate [1].

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/ensure-compat-pars...

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bphogan13y ago

Valid HTML makes pages render better which helps out screen readers in certain cases. I've seen this in action too.

jakub_g13y ago

[1] [shameless self-promotion] http://jakub-g.github.com/accessibility/onclick/ - comprehensive cross-browser study of 'onclick' handling from JavaScript

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