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0 pointsansin16y ago0 comments

->"I assume if there were more people coding Ruby, there would be a better chance someone would step up and take his place."

Is it more the fact that the community is small or that fewer people share their code than in the Python community? Just wondering.

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nir16y ago

I don't really know Python's community that well, but I would wager it's probably due to sheer size. I disagree with PG's "law of averages" regarding choosing environments - working in a language that has more users does have significant benefits in my opinion.

BTW another example that comes to mind regarding beginner-friendliness is how long it took to get Rails working with Apache. Before Phusion you were supposed to run your own mongrel cluster or similar fringe solutions - it was insane to ignore the world's most widely installed server. Personally I only started considering Rails production-worthy after mod_rails turned out to be fast and stable. Sure, I can run Thin/nginx or whatever, but I don't want to learn a new server (and wait for it to mature) just so I can use Rails.

blasdel16y ago

I, for one, thought that the popularization of the "Fuck Apache" mindset was one the most positive results of Rails' ascendancy.

I don't like Rails, but I hate Apache.

nir16y ago

I'm think using Mongrel/LigHTTPD for a while might make you see Apache in a new light :)

ansinOP16y ago

I'm not qualified to respond to your points about Phusion and mongrel but on the previous point about the size of the community, are you also finding as a result that the job market for Ruby positions is sparse (forgetting about the economy for a second)? That's the impression I have from the job boards but you work in the field so maybe you have a better idea.

nir16y ago

Actually, there's plenty of Rails work out there, and usually in higher rates than PHP (granted, you do accomplish more work per Rails hour).

It seems to me most Rails jobs are either for companies who chose Ruby because they really know their stuff, which is great, or companies who chose Rails because 2 years ago it was touted as some sort of Web app pixie dust in Wired Magazine, which is often less fun :)

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nir16y ago

blasdel16y ago

I, for one, thought that the popularization of the "Fuck Apache" mindset was one the most positive results of Rails' ascendancy.

I don't like Rails, but I hate Apache.

nir16y ago

I'm think using Mongrel/LigHTTPD for a while might make you see Apache in a new light :)

ansinOP16y ago

nir16y ago

Actually, there's plenty of Rails work out there, and usually in higher rates than PHP (granted, you do accomplish more work per Rails hour).

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